Violence and politicsFollow

You lefties kill babies. How many times does varus need to remind you? Oh the military, by underfunding them.

Union members beat outspoken opponents of health care legislation
New Black Panther Party members threaten poll goers with beatings at polling places.
Protesters at RNC convention stockpile urine & ***** "bombs" and make molotov cocktails to use on convention goers.
Protesters at RNC convention surround and intimidate convention goers on city streets in St. Paul.

EDIT: The bigger part of why you don't remember the incidents is likely that they are not reported on day in and day out over weeks of news cycles like the acts of "right wing" people.


Edited, Nov 5th 2010 12:22pm by MoebiusLord

I do recall reading several articles of men in brown coats invading designated voting stations and intimidating "potential Kerry supporters" away from the voting booths with threats of bodily harm with concealed weapons. (also sending fake letters attempting to convince them they were ineligible to vote, although that isn't violent, just desperate.)

I also feel that certain acts of violence without an apparent reason might be due to frustration fueled by sensationalist media. Glenn Beck cries the sky is falling because Obama is president, dumb redneck shoots up local police station and is killed by police. That sort of thing.

Edit:

Sorry can't think of any left-leaning violence that hasn't been stated already.

Edited, Nov 5th 2010 6:41pm by Kuwoobie

There was that McCain campaign volunteer who wrestled herself to the ground, punched herself in the eye and carved a "B" into her cheek to make herself on Obama supporter.

Is that right leaning or left leaning violence?

First and foremost, f'uck off.

Now that the meat of the matter is behind us, it's no less of an issue than the posting of an address, or cutting of a gas line that can't be linked to party leanings.

Additionally, the inclusion of the abortion clinic bombings (no doctor killings? why not) is spurious as they are not politically motivated, but religiously. No less misconceived or stupid, but not political. If we're including non-political than that opens up a much wider can of worms for the left. The rise of right-leaning violence is relatively recent. The groups active in the 60's and 70's were primarily far left leaning and much more violent.

Are we restricting ourselves just to the US? Cause we can point to common riots and violent protests which occur across Europe regularly. Almost all of which come from left leaning groups arguing for left leaning causes.

We can look at the G-20 summit in Toronto (a bit closer to home I suppose). Were those right wingers torching cars and pelting people with bricks? Heck. When have you *ever* heard of conservatives doing these sorts of things? Has it happened within your lifetime? Within the last 20 years? Within the last 40 years?


This is frankly one of the most bizarre arguments I hear coming from liberals. You have to really stretch things to make the right out to be violent in todays political landscape. Someone says something, and someone else did something, which may or may not have been connected. And one guy out of a thousand at a rally, doesn't actually do anything violent, but has a sign saying something which someone else might view as a call to violence or racism, or... something.


These are the things labeled as "violence" by modern liberals when talking about conservatives. Yet, at the exact same time, we have event after event in which real violence is occurring by liberals. Not "someone did something which may or may not have been inspired in some way by something someone else said", but actual politically active people who are pursuing their liberal agenda and doing so in a violent way. It seems as though the "ends justify the means" mentality of the left has long since included the "rightness" of using violence to achieve those ends.


It's shocking enough that this violence is so blatant and clear, but what's really shocking is the blind eye that most liberals turn to it. Oh. Some guys standing in front of a polling place on election day holding batons and threatening people? That's not violence at all. That's nothing. Let's just ignore it.


Sigh.

You're right. They were the ones blowing up police stations and planting bombs at the Pentagon.

We can put the war room in a teepee on the lawn at the white house.

We're talking about actual violence though. Not speech which you don't agree with, or which you feel might incite someone to violence. Actual violence. It's easy to point to someone's speech and say "That person is calling for violence!", but that's not the same as actual people showing up at political rallies and protests and throwing rocks and bricks and lighting cars on fire. That's not the same as going out and slashing the tires of poll workers for the other party on election day. That's not the same as gathering up a group of armed people, driving around in trucks and literally running poll watchers from the other party out of town (yes, this happened in 2004, and it was a group of Republicans who were run out of town by the armed band). And that's not the same as two men wearing uniforms and carrying clubs bracketing the doors of a polling place on election day and loudly talking about how nobody better vote against their boy Obama. And it's also not the same as throwing bricks at elderly people on buses because they are attending a convention for the other party. Or dropping sandbags from overpasses at cars heading to said same rally. Or lighting more fires.


All of those are things that have happened in the last decade by liberals targeting conservatives.

And those are just things we can directly connect to actual political activism. We could also talk about threats and violence by union thugs against anyone who might dare to cross their picket lines. We can talk about the eco-terrorists you mentioned earlier. We could talk all day about clearly liberal organizations which regularly employ violent means to achieve their objectives.


Despite nearly constant violent acts by liberals in this country, it's the rare and occasional violent acts by conservatives which everyone leaps upon and hypes as though it's some sure sign of a massive wave of violence or something. The reality is that violence from the right in the US is marked by its rarity. It's so rare that it is news when it happens. While violence, much less threats of violence are so common from the left that they get dismissed or excused as just something that happens. Really? One might want to reconsider their politics if violence "just happens" as a natural result.


And for those still confused about the Black Panther thing, here's a decent article dispelling much of the BS. There are direct quotes from the investigation. The reality is that no one doubts that voters were intimidated, and no one doubts that a violation of election law occurred. But no one wants to do anything about it? Perhaps they feel intimidated as well?


And for those still confused, there was a New Black Panther once again stationed at the same polling place in Philly. This time he didn't have a club, but was handing out sample ballots (with Democrats filled, "as a suggestion" I suppose), directly in front of the doors of the polling place. That's a clear violation of the law. The intimidation by liberals of voters in many of these places is so bad and so constant that anyone attempting just to observe the polls to make sure intimidation doesn't happen is harassed. Which is bad by itself, but in many cases the media joins in attacking those who are legitimate poll watchers and ignore the ones who aren't supposed to be there. How dare conservatives actually want fair elections, right? It's somehow twisted around into intimidation for them to observe (as they are legally allowed to do) to make sure that the elections are fair.


You've got to have some particularly huge blinders on to think that it's conservatives who are using violence and threats in the political process.

Take a second to untwist your panties you sand snatched little girl. Directly addressing a comment you made, especially in such an effectively snarky manner, doesn't make me look stupid. Letting your cooter gape like that doesn't help your reputation for being an c'unt though.

Lynchings.

Or how about more recent examples. What about the attacks on five Democrat offices after the passage of the Healthcare bill? What about the package of white powder sent to Anthony Weiner with a letter specifically referencing the bill? Or Tom Perriello's severed gas line after the legislation? Or Jim D. Adkisson ranting about liberals and gays taking his jobs as he shot up parishioners in Tennessee? The numerous assaults on Muslim Americans?

Yeah man, those radical right wing neo ***** are totally nice and peaceful people.
And no, the radical left wing isn't any better, it's not the right or left that's the problem but the radical part that is.

There's a difference between saying someone is biased, and someone is wrong, numbnuts.