Belkira wrote:
So tell us about these abuses then, Alma. It's incredibly hard to be upset about something you don't know is happening. Let's hear it.
Given that I actually worked with Korean Soldiers the entire time I was there,
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KATUSA) and I worked on a Korean Air Base for my last year in Korea, (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwon. The Air Force has a base in Suwon. This was used by the United States Air Force during the Korean War. The base is now occupied mostly by the ROKAF (Republic of Korea Air Force), though the US Army houses half of a battalion there presently, and there are a limited number of US Air Force personnel.) I know about it. The ROKA SGMs are no joke. They are more physically fit that most of the Soldiers that I've worked with. Not only that, the ROK SGMs that I worked with were all experts in Taekwondo(which is Korean), so when they get in trouble, they literally get beat.
Belkira wrote:
The truth is, Iraq is sort of "my war" in the sense that it's happened during my adult life. When I could understand what was going on. So I feel closer to it. I've had family there. I've had friends there. I've been disgusted with how things have been handled, with the lies and the pretenses.
So, you admit that this isn't about any principle or anything, just your opinion and attachment to the war. This is exactly what I was trying to point out. You somehow always seem to have an emotional point of view towards topics we discuss. This is why we never agree.
This SITREP of the IA had no US coalition involvement, so I don't see why you a) think we should get involved, b) think we're somehow guilty for focusing on our mission first and not something of less priority and c) that nothing was ever done to address the situation.
Belkira wrote:
In other words, you want to back off of the statement you made because it was idiotic.
You know that you're wrong. You just can't man up and admit it.
Actually no. I meant what I just said. I rephrased it. I'm saying the same thing, but only using different words because you, along with others, like to take the dumbest interpretation of things to argue as opposed to the most logical. I've stated at least 3 times that no one wants to be at war, so why in the world would I mean what you were implying? In any case, that doesn't change my previous statement. I noticed how you didn't refute it, so I assume that you understand my point now.
If you actually pretended to be what you said you were ("just asking questions") as opposed to being defensive, then we wouldn't run into things like this.
Belkira wrote:
My point still stands. As does my insult. You make me sick. Your apologist attitude. Your obvious need to stick up for the US army to appease your own conscious. It's disgusting.
o.O???
You can't say that the people in the Iraqi war are closer to you than the poor 'ol innocent Korean Soldiers getting kicked in the chest because that wasn't "in your life time"... then turn around and call me disgusting because I say there's a line of humanity, but until that becomes an issue, we should focus on the innocent.
You never cease to amaze me. I've never met someone so emotionally charged as you. Your emotions have totally clogged any remaining logical thinking that you might once have had. You claim that I'm "sticking up for the US army", yet you have no details on this abuse of the IA. You have no idea what these detainees have done, you don't know what measures, if any, that the IA has done to prevent that. You have no idea what measures, if any, the US has done to handle this. You have no idea if any US interaction will affect the international relations.
I mean, seriously take a second to think about this. We have Soldiers (your friends and family) over there in Iraq. Some of these people are on MIT teams living and working with the IA. The last thing we need to do is ruin what ever trust we do have in our relationship by intervening in something that not only not affects the US or our coalition forces, but maybe perfectly legal in their land.
Just pretend that those Iraqi detainees are Korean Soldiers, that way it wont be so close to you.