LeWoVoc wrote:
gbaji wrote:
LeWoVoc wrote:
Does it hurt to be this full of sh*t?
Lol. Predictable. Can't respond to what is posted, so ignore it and attack the person.
Have you *ever* sat down and just watched a Fox news discussion and a CNN discussion about the same subject back to back? Ever? Do it sometime and you might just maybe possibly learn that what I'm telling you is true.
I watch very little CNN, but I watch a lot of Fox News. (You have to if you want to discuss anything around here.) I can't speak for the legitimacy of your CNN claims, but I can honestly say you've never been more incorrect about Fox.
Then give me an example. Show me where a Fox News host just goes on a diatribe in which he or she just spends 5 minutes spouting short little negative statements about a long list of liberal politicians. No attempt to present any sort of coherent case to support their statements. Just makes them one after another. I have *never* seen that sort of thing on Fox News. And neither have you. You're just unwilling to admit it.
And you really should watch CNN as well. As I stated earlier, they use similar formats in their political discussions, but there is a conspicuous lack of any conservative opinions on their panels. Assuming you are honest about watching Fox News a lot, you have to admit that they do have liberals on their panels, that the liberals are given time to speak, and that the views expressed by those liberals are "real" liberal positions and opinions (not strawmen).
While you won't see the same sort of "out there crazy" liberal opinions commonly seen on MSNBC on Fox, if you do bother to take the time to watch CNN, you'll find that the liberals on Fox are expressing the same positions and the same arguments as the panelists on CNN. They're not holding back because they're on Fox. But as I stated earlier, what you will notice if you pay attention is that there are almost *never* any people on the CNN panels who express the conservative positions on those topics.
How do you objectively measure if the political discussion on a network is presenting you with all sides? If you only watch one discussion on one network, you can't. You have nothing to compare it with. But if you watch one and you hear arguments A, B, and C, and then you watch the other and on the same subject you hear arguments A, B, C, and also D, E, and F, you can conclude that the second network is presenting you with a wider view of the issue. And when A, B, and C are consistently what we'd call "liberal" arguments, and D, E, and F are "conservative" ones, it's not a leap to say that one network is being "fair" to both sides while the other is not.
I have done this. Many times. And it's glaring how unbalanced the opinion's on CNN are compared to those on Fox. But hey! Don't take my word on it. Go ahead and do the same test I've done. DVR two news/opinion programs on the two networks on the same day. See if you can find a similarly formatted discussion on each of them on the same subject. And then
objectively take note of each argument made and compare them. If you are willing to challenge your own convictions and do this, it might just open your eyes to how things really are out there. What you think is biased opinion really isn't. It's just opinion reporting that presents a viewpoint you almost never ever get to see or hear anywhere else.
That's not bias on Fox's part. It's bias on nearly every other networks part. It's just so ubiquitous that you only notice something is "different" when watching Fox. But without being objective about it, you wont realize that it's because everyone else is doing it wrong, not Fox.
Edited, Oct 29th 2010 7:25pm by gbaji