Nadenu wrote:
Blasphemy is when people deliberately decide not to watch It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
They still show that? I'd love to watch that with my sister - I'm sure she's never seen it.
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They still show that? I'd love to watch that with my sister - I'm sure she's never seen it.
BrownDuck wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Do you or do you not believe that it is possible for a nonbeliever to commit blasphemy? Yes or No.
In the eyes of a believer, yes. However, only in eyes (or ears) of the believer. Just because you think something I said is blasphemous does not make it generally so.
So, you don't believe that there can exist an action that can generally be considered blasphemous regardless of your belief or if you think it is or not?
Shador wrote:
This. Exactly this. Blasphemy is, by nature, a religious definition. America is not, and should not be, goverened by religious law, nor should any other place on earth be. Unfortunately, there are places where a madwoman with a crowbar would be the least of this artist's worries. Perhaps Alma and his ilk would prefer to live in one of those places. I, however, would not.
Uh, no. You're just focusing on the religion part, just as every other anti-religious person does. Reading the definition, the only difference between blasphemy and any other action that may be considered rude or inconsiderate is the fact that the object in question is considered sacred. This is why the definition I quoted does not make the fictional distinction that you, BD and Belkira are making.
BrownDuck wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Yeah, but just a moment ago, you were in agreement. To him, it's not blasphemy. And no one else knows about it. Therefore...
Let's all agree that what Alma means to say is that just because something you do isn't blasphemy to you doesn't mean it's not blasphemy to someone else.
No, that's what I said on page @#%^ing one.
ON PAGE ****** ONE, I wrote:
The funny thing about blasphemy is that it's only blasphemy if you subscribe to the religion.
At the risk of being pedantic, that's *not* the same thing at all. That's like saying it's only theft if you subscribe to a moral code in which taking things from people without their permission is wrong. Um... It's still theft to the person you stole from. Just as your act is still blasphemous to the person who believes in a given religion, even if you don't.
Get it? A non believer can still commit a blasphemous act in the eyes of a believer. That's the bit I think you keep missing. He may not think it's blasphemous, but the religious person does.
Are we done with this silly argument yet?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
King Nobby wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
Blah, blah, blah.
Are we done with this silly argument yet?
Are we done with this silly argument yet?
One can only hope.
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Blah, blah, blah.
Are we done with this silly argument yet?
Are we done with this silly argument yet?
One can only hope.
I think somone might be confusing blasphemy with sacrilege.
remorajunbao wrote:
One day I'm going to fly to Canada and open the curtains in your office.
gbaji wrote:
At the risk of being pedantic, that's *not* the same thing at all. That's like saying it's only theft if you subscribe to a moral code in which taking things from people without their permission is wrong. Um... It's still theft to the person you stole from. Just as your act is still blasphemous to the person who believes in a given religion, even if you don't.
But what about taxes? The government is stealing my money to pay for public services? They're theives!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Friar Bijou wrote:
I think somone might be confusing blasphemy with sacrilege.
Heresy! Heresy I say! ;)
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Debalic wrote:
gbaji wrote:
At the risk of being pedantic, that's *not* the same thing at all. That's like saying it's only theft if you subscribe to a moral code in which taking things from people without their permission is wrong. Um... It's still theft to the person you stole from. Just as your act is still blasphemous to the person who believes in a given religion, even if you don't.
But what about taxes? The government is stealing my money to pay for public services? They're theives!
Were you expecting disagreement?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Friar Bijou wrote:
I think somone might be confusing blasphemy with sacrilege.
Heresy! Heresy I say! ;)
Heresy by thought, heresy by word, heresy by deed, and heresy by--four counts.
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