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#27 Oct 07 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe people need to grow a pair and not take it so personally when people insult their imaginary friend in the sky or some guy who's been dead for ages, hmmm?


Maybe...
#28 Oct 07 2010 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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Religion's are peoples belief's, and that is something you should never antagonize
If you adamantly believed that Lucky Charms was made by leprechauns I would make fun of you too. Either everything is sacred or nothing is sacred. Acting like we should pick and choose based off of popularity/zealotry of belief is intellectually dishonest and socially unjust.
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Religion helps people all over the world, in ways that some people will never understand.
If religion ceased to exist, that doesn't mean that those people wouldn't be helped in other ways that don't require misleading them.

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 5:17pm by shintasama
#29 Oct 07 2010 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?
#30 Oct 07 2010 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?
Completely.
#31 Oct 07 2010 at 3:42 PM Rating: Good
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George Carlin on the ten commandments, and religion and god.
#32 Oct 07 2010 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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baelnic wrote:
Here is a link to a small picture of the art in question.

Not safe for work.

http://www.sharksink.com/images/EC02-01f.jpg

It is sequential art and the damning panels are the 10th and 12th panels according to some of the protesters. I'm not sure if the Denver Post still has up the photos of the protesters but their signs were hilarious.


Linky no worky.
#33 Oct 07 2010 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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They took it down. It might still be cached in google images.

Here is a smaller one. Not safe for work. The panel arrangement is different for this one.

http://images.artnet.com/artwork_images_19_497285_enrique-chagoya.jpg

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 6:23pm by baelnic
#34 Oct 07 2010 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.
#35 Oct 07 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.


Know what I hate? besides religion

People who try to speculate about other people's lives when they don't know **** about them.

What you have been witnessing is the culmination of a long process, most of which you don't know of and haven't seen. The final straw really came with all the recent 'gay rights' type threads. This triggered my decision to come out as Bi here. Then it occured to me that I should just drop all my fronts and baggage and come out with my real feelings on religion, too. Even among total strangers, these were incredibly hard decisions. If you've never been involved with a cult/high-control group, you really have no idea of the indoctrination and brainwashing they do. I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.
#36 Oct 07 2010 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.
I assumed he was trying to be ironic and failing.

Edit: Well, **** me.

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 8:14pm by Quadkit
#37 Oct 07 2010 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.


Good luck. The important thing is that no matter what you decide, you be happy and fulfilled in your life. I don't know specifically what's keeping you from coming out spiritually and sexually, but I can imagine that they are entwined. I've never had to face anything like admitting who you really are to people you care about, so I don't have a lot of advice to give. Just luck to wish.
#38 Oct 07 2010 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.


Know what I hate? besides religion

People who try to speculate about other people's lives when they don't know **** about them.

What you have been witnessing is the culmination of a long process, most of which you don't know of and haven't seen. The final straw really came with all the recent 'gay rights' type threads. This triggered my decision to come out as Bi here. Then it occured to me that I should just drop all my fronts and baggage and come out with my real feelings on religion, too. Even among total strangers, these were incredibly hard decisions. If you've never been involved with a cult/high-control group, you really have no idea of the indoctrination and brainwashing they do. I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.


Precious, really, your Allakhazoo epiphany. No one gives a fUck. Even Belkira here would prefer you just melt down, send me pics of yourself self-penetrating with a severed horse ***** and then go crawling back to that which has owned you in the past. You, your life, this hilarious chrysalis you're begging to rescue you from you, it's just fodder for people bored at work.

Anyway, had no idea you were bi. Congratulations on increasing exponentially the number of humans willing to have intercourse with you. I mean, any port in a storm, eh?
#39 Oct 07 2010 at 9:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.


Good luck. The important thing is that no matter what you decide, you be happy and fulfilled in your life. I don't know specifically what's keeping you from coming out spiritually and sexually, but I can imagine that they are entwined. I've never had to face anything like admitting who you really are to people you care about, so I don't have a lot of advice to give. Just luck to wish.


Honestly, it's not really a big deal in the OOT, straight and/or religious people are the minority there.
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#40 Oct 07 2010 at 10:35 PM Rating: Good
Dude, someone should explain to these folks what Judas/Jesus slash lemons are and watch their heads explode.
#41 Oct 07 2010 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.


Know what I hate? besides religion

People who try to speculate about other people's lives when they don't know **** about them.

What you have been witnessing is the culmination of a long process, most of which you don't know of and haven't seen. The final straw really came with all the recent 'gay rights' type threads. This triggered my decision to come out as Bi here. Then it occured to me that I should just drop all my fronts and baggage and come out with my real feelings on religion, too. Even among total strangers, these were incredibly hard decisions. If you've never been involved with a cult/high-control group, you really have no idea of the indoctrination and brainwashing they do. I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.

Ohz noez, admitting you're bi or athiest, now there's a hard step indeed.

What next, going to admit that you love puppies and hate terrorists?
#42 Oct 07 2010 at 10:49 PM Rating: Good
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Bardalicious wrote:
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Seriously, is anyone else weirded out by Shador's sudden flirtation with atheism?


No. He's pretty obviously desperate for attention. May have suffered a lay-off or a romantic failing recently, I'd suspect.


Know what I hate? besides religion

People who try to speculate about other people's lives when they don't know **** about them.

What you have been witnessing is the culmination of a long process, most of which you don't know of and haven't seen. The final straw really came with all the recent 'gay rights' type threads. This triggered my decision to come out as Bi here. Then it occured to me that I should just drop all my fronts and baggage and come out with my real feelings on religion, too. Even among total strangers, these were incredibly hard decisions. If you've never been involved with a cult/high-control group, you really have no idea of the indoctrination and brainwashing they do. I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.

Ohz noez, admitting you're bi or athiest, now there's a hard step indeed.

What next, going to admit that you love puppies and hate terrorists?
Going from being perceived as a Jehovah's Witness to a bisexual atheist is a big step, to be fair. Doesn't justify being an cnut about it, though.
#43 Oct 07 2010 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Going from being perceived as a Jehovah's Witness to a bisexual atheist is a big step, to be fair.


Really? I mean, a big step toward middle-aged cliche, maybe, but that's it. His revelations are pretty standard fair amongst J-Dubs.
#44 Oct 07 2010 at 11:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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When one converts from Jehovah's Witness-ism to Bisexual Atheism do you suddenly decide to believe that the Earth is a couple billion years old and all that "Those scientists don't know what they're talking about" stuff was a self delusion or do you now maintain that it just popped into existence 6,000 years ago on its own?

This is a sincere question, by the way.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 12:06am by Jophiel
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#45 Oct 07 2010 at 11:13 PM Rating: Good
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BT - I'll plead ignorance here. We have mostly Baptists here... such a step means beatings and death threats usually.

Jophiel wrote:
When one converts from Jehovah's Witness-ism to Bisexual Atheism do you suddenly decide to believe that the Earth is a couple billion years old and all that "Those scientists don't know what they're talking about" stuff was a self delusion or do you now maintain that it just popped into existence 6,000 years ago on its own?

This is a sincere question, by the way.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 12:06am by Jophiel
This is why I thought he was trying to be ironic...
#46 Oct 07 2010 at 11:22 PM Rating: Good
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When one converts from Jehovah's Witness-ism to Bisexual Atheism do you suddenly decide to believe that the Earth is a couple billion years old and all that "Those scientists don't know what they're talking about" stuff was a self delusion or do you now maintain that it just popped into existence 6,000 years ago on its own?

This is a sincere question, by the way.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 12:06am by Jophiel
Probably the former, but I suspect it depends on whether the conversion was their choice or if they were forced into it via a transfusion.
#47 Oct 07 2010 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:
I am hoping that coming out here (both as Bi and as an athiest) will help eventually prepare me to do so IRL. So, really, this is not a flirtation. I am just finally embracing what I have always been.


Good luck. The important thing is that no matter what you decide, you be happy and fulfilled in your life. I don't know specifically what's keeping you from coming out spiritually and sexually, but I can imagine that they are entwined. I've never had to face anything like admitting who you really are to people you care about, so I don't have a lot of advice to give. Just luck to wish.


Honestly, it's not really a big deal in the OOT, straight and/or religious people are the minority there.


Yeah, I was talking about him coming out IRL. Smiley: grin
#48 Oct 07 2010 at 11:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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As a heterosexual God-believing liberal, I should be getting a damn scholarship around this place. Or else that part-time admin position via affirmative action.
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#49 Oct 08 2010 at 12:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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As a heterosexual God-believing liberal, I should be getting a damn scholarship around this place. Or else that part-time admin position via affirmative action.
Typical liberal pulling the affirmative action card. Smiley: oyvey
#50 Oct 08 2010 at 5:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm starting to think Joph should turn in his liberal card.
#51 Oct 08 2010 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
When one converts from Jehovah's Witness-ism to Bisexual Atheism do you suddenly decide to believe that the Earth is a couple billion years old and all that "Those scientists don't know what they're talking about" stuff was a self delusion or do you now maintain that it just popped into existence 6,000 years ago on its own?

This is a sincere question, by the way.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 12:06am by Jophiel


Well, to be fair, J-dubs are not "young earth creationists". They do believe that the earth and the universe are billions of years old (since this has been proven beyond question and, [sarcasim]obviously[/sarcasim] the Bible can't conflict with fact). They do, however, belive that man himself is an act of special creation and only about 6K years old. They believe the various forms of animal life were also created all along they way during those billions of years. Why an "all-powerful" god had to **** about for billions of years before getting aournd to making man is never explained.

So. No change on the age of the universe/earth required, but changes in a lot of related beliefs.

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Also, I'm rather supprised to hear that such a clear-thinking person as yourself continues to believe in a being that science has proven to be redundant. Mind if I ask why?
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