LeWoVoc wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I'm glad that you noticed that.
You said the following:
"I can see this a little bit, but then again most aren't trying to prove a group of people which includes themselves are intelligent."
Not having subnormal intelligence does not equal being intelligent. You mentioned the key word, "normal".
So, no, I was not arguing that a whole group of people were intelligent, but that they all did not posses subnormal intelligence. Some of those people might be intelligent, some of them might just be normal, but most of them don't have subnormal intelligence.
This isn't a semantics game. You all ridicule me for misusing a word on accident, then turn around and purposely misuse words to support your argument. Words have meanings and definitions for a purpose. You can't just change things all willy~nilly.
Edited, Oct 13th 2010 3:40am by Almalieque
Yes, not having subnormal intelligence means being intelligent. You're associating the base word intelligent with advanced, or above average intelligence. Something or someone being intelligent does not imply it has above average intelligence. Even if this semantics game (which is exactly what it is, even if you deny it) is put aside, you still haven't put out any statistical data, and you are still trying to prove that they aren't morons. You're trying to prove a group which includes yourself is made up of mostly non-morons, and you misspell and misuse simple words; therefore, people call you out on it.
Uh no... When you all call me out for misusing a word, I get called an idiot, although I man up to my mistake. When I call you all out for misusing a word, you say "semantics", although you're clearly wrong.
So, I'm going to show how you're wrong in every possible definition of the word intelligent.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intelligent+ wrote:
–adjective
1.having good understanding or a high mental capacity; quick to comprehend, as persons or animals: an intelligent student.
2.displaying or characterized by quickness of understanding, sound thought, or good judgment: an intelligent reply.
3.having the faculty of reasoning and understanding; possessing intelligence: intelligent beings in outer space.
4.Computers . pertaining to the ability to do data processing locally; smart: An intelligent terminal can edit input before transmission to a host computer. Compare dumb ( def. 8 ) .
5.Archaic . having understanding or knowledge (usually fol. by of ).
You are making the claim that simply having intelligence, makes a
person intelligent, which is completely wrong. The very definition you quoted of moron is "subnormal intelligence.". That means even a moron has intelligence. So, if being a moron is the opposite of being intelligent, then simply having intelligence can not be the criterion for a person to be considered intelligent.
If you look at the first two definitions, they clearly state being intelligent as having a "
high mental capacity", or "
quickness of understanding" which are greater than normal.
Now, you're probably saying "what about the last two, they say simply possessing intelligence". That's easy. that is in reference to things that typically don't posses intelligence or thought of as seen as possibly not having intelligence, i.e computers and beings from outer space. In that reference, we can easily say that mankind is intelligent because we posses intelligence. Doing so, states that everyone to include officers are also intelligent beings. So, either way, you're wrong.
Just man up and accept that fact.
For your statistical claim, seriously, do you need stats? As I said in my previous posts, I can easily find some random stat off google, but it doesn't mean anything because you can easily find some counter statistic.
What I'm arguing is, the more education a person has, the more likely that the person is more intellectual than someone with less education. Are you seriously arguing against that? To do so is to imply that there is no correlation between education and intelligence.