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#77 Sep 28 2010 at 4:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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God is dead


Nope, He's unnecessary.


Is there a difference?


I'd just like to interject that this exchange is even more tedious to anyone who understands the quote in the first place.


I believe in nothing, Kavekkski. Nothing!

And tomorrow I come back and I cut off your chonson.
Vill you stomp on it und skvish it?


Dude, let's not forget - let's *not* forget - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.
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#78 Sep 28 2010 at 5:16 AM Rating: Good
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Dude, let's not forget - let's *not* forget - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.


You know what Nietzsche said about animals? "They were God's second blunder."
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#79 Sep 28 2010 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Dude, let's not forget - let's *not* forget - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.


You know what Nietzsche said about animals? "They were God's second blunder."


You know who else enjoyed quoting Nietzche? That's right. Think about it.
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#80 Sep 28 2010 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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I am still shocked this thread hasn't turned into a discussion on butt reeds already.
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#81 Sep 28 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I actually give credit to Shador for posting against a hostile crowd... but take them away for editing!
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#82REDACTED, Posted: Sep 28 2010 at 8:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I decided I needed a fresh start. I need to be less hateful and confrontational and just more pleasant all 'round. Honestly, I don't know why I posted all that nonsense before. I can be so silly sometimes. ^_^ Sorry to everyone I was rude to, or cussed out lately. Olive branch, etc.?
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#83 Sep 28 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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I only just now figured out "reads" = "reeds" and not something you do with a book. The subject makes a bit more sense, now.
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#84 Sep 28 2010 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Uninteresting, as well as a coward?

I'm sure you'll do fine here.
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#85 Sep 28 2010 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I decided I needed a fresh start. I need to be less hateful and confrontational and just more pleasant all 'round. Honestly, I don't know why I posted all that nonsense before. I can be so silly sometimes. ^_^ Sorry to everyone I was rude to, or cussed out lately. Olive branch, etc.?


Renounce your God and we'll call it even.
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#86 Sep 28 2010 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
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I decided I needed a fresh start. I need to be less hateful and confrontational and just more pleasant all 'round. Honestly, I don't know why I posted all that nonsense before. I can be so silly sometimes. ^_^ Sorry to everyone I was rude to, or cussed out lately. Olive branch, etc.?


Renounce your God and we'll call it even.



I, Princess Shador VIII, 
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1.  I have come to know that all religion is proclaiming erroneous teachings 
    and under the cloak of religion follows hostile purposes against Science 
    and Humanity in general. 
2.  I have therefore left all religion entirely and made myself 
    absolutely free from its teachings. 
3.  I herewith give assurance that I will never again take any part in 
    defending religion. Any persons approaching me with the teaching of 
    religion, or who in any manner reveal their connections with it, 
    I will publicly deride and rate down immediately. 
4.  I will in the future esteem the laws of the Asylum, especially 
    in the event of flame war will I defend the 'Zam, and join 
    in every way the community of the people. 
5.  I have been informed that I will at once be rated down and mocked 
    if I should act against the declaration given today. 
 
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Edit: Formated to be more declaration-like

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#87 Sep 28 2010 at 10:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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#88 Sep 28 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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You don't need to have faith to acknowledge biblical stories, even if you don't buy the miracles, burning bushes and other mystical embellishments.


I accept the Bible as factual accounts from the perspective of people who told them. So yeah, God appeared as a burning bush. To someone who was quite likely stoned on mushrooms or something at the time. Ezekial saw flying wheels in the sky - during one of this "episodes."

These days, we can distinguish between reality, mental illness, and a bad trip. During Antiquity and Biblical times, folks didn't have those separate classifications - what was real was what one experienced. So if someone claimed to have been visited by an angel that said it was okay, God knocked up your girlfriend, marry her anyway - who were we to call him crazy?

It was recorded as it was told. That doesn't mean it's true.
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You don't need to have faith to acknowledge biblical stories, even if you don't buy the miracles, burning bushes and other mystical embellishments.


I accept the Bible as factual accounts from the perspective of people who told them. So yeah, God appeared as a burning bush. To someone who was quite likely stoned on mushrooms or something at the time. Ezekial saw flying wheels in the sky - during one of this "episodes."

These days, we can distinguish between reality, mental illness, and a bad trip. During Antiquity and Biblical times, folks didn't have those separate classifications - what was real was what one experienced. So if someone claimed to have been visited by an angel that said it was okay, God knocked up your girlfriend, marry her anyway - who were we to call him crazy?

It was recorded as it was told. That doesn't mean it's true.


So basically the Bible should read

BIBLE*

*accounts taken down from people that might have been stoned out of their mind and or flat out lying to cover up premarital sex
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#90 Sep 28 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
KingJohn wrote:
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God is dead


Nope, He's unnecessary.


Is there a difference?


I'd just like to interject that this exchange is even more tedious to anyone who understands the quote in the first place.


I believe in nothing, Kavekkski. Nothing!

And tomorrow I come back and I cut off your chonson.
Vill you stomp on it und skvish it?


Dude, let's not forget - let's *not* forget - that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either.
What are you, a ******* park ranger now? Who gives a **** about the ******* marmot?
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#91 Sep 28 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Oh look, we've turned a crazy into a supplicant. Work complete.
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#92 Sep 28 2010 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Was in the local paper today, partially relevant.
The Dallas Morning News wrote:
If you have a factual question about religion, you might want to ask an atheist. A new survey of Americans shows that atheists and agnostics rank with Jews and Mormons as the top-performing groups in religious knowledge.

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life posed 32 basic religious questions and found that atheists and agnostics answered, on average, 20.9 correctly. Jews were right on 20.5, and Mormons on 20.3.

The survey of 3,412 people, conducted between May and June of this year, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, while the margins of error for individual religious groups was higher. Because of the survey's margin of error, Pew did not declare a winner, saying those three groups did about equally well.


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#93 Sep 28 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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Was in the local paper today, partially relevant.
The Dallas Morning News wrote:
If you have a factual question about religion, you might want to ask an atheist. A new survey of Americans shows that atheists and agnostics rank with Jews and Mormons as the top-performing groups in religious knowledge.

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life posed 32 basic religious questions and found that atheists and agnostics answered, on average, 20.9 correctly. Jews were right on 20.5, and Mormons on 20.3.

The survey of 3,412 people, conducted between May and June of this year, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, while the margins of error for individual religious groups was higher. Because of the survey's margin of error, Pew did not declare a winner, saying those three groups did about equally well.


Edited, Sep 28th 2010 5:42pm by Allegory
Well, it'd be pretty lame to choose to forgo faith if you didn't know what you were forgoing and why.

That said, I know there are plenty of atheists that are just in it for the shock value of being an atheist among a sea of religion. I live adjacent to the Bible Belt. :/
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Allegory wrote:
Was in the local paper today, partially relevant.
The Dallas Morning News wrote:
If you have a factual question about religion, you might want to ask an atheist. A new survey of Americans shows that atheists and agnostics rank with Jews and Mormons as the top-performing groups in religious knowledge.

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life posed 32 basic religious questions and found that atheists and agnostics answered, on average, 20.9 correctly. Jews were right on 20.5, and Mormons on 20.3.

The survey of 3,412 people, conducted between May and June of this year, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, while the margins of error for individual religious groups was higher. Because of the survey's margin of error, Pew did not declare a winner, saying those three groups did about equally well.


Edited, Sep 28th 2010 5:42pm by Allegory
Well, it'd be pretty lame to choose to forgo faith if you didn't know what you were forgoing and why.

That said, I know there are plenty of atheists that are just in it for the shock value of being an atheist among a sea of religion. I live adjacent to the Bible Belt. :/
Also living in the Bible Belt, I can fairly say that the majority of the atheists at my age fall under this category. Either that, or their Dawkinites that just parrot his lines and ignore everything else. There are, of course, oddities. I do know a family of atheists that also deny evolution.
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Also living in the Bible Belt, I can fairly say that the majority of the atheists at my age fall under this category. Either that, or their Dawkinites that just parrot his lines and ignore everything else. There are, of course, oddities. I do know a family of atheists that also deny evolution.


Now that must be interesting. If they don't believe in the magic wizard man or evolution, how do they things got here?
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#96 Sep 29 2010 at 6:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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#97 Sep 29 2010 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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Ezekial saw flying wheels in the sky - during one of this "episodes."
Alien spacecraft, IMO.
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#98 Sep 29 2010 at 6:29 AM Rating: Good
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Well, it'd be pretty lame to choose to forgo faith if you didn't know what you were forgoing and why.
I'd think it more lame to believe in a religion without knowing what it is and why. However, most come into their religious beliefs pretty blindly.

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That said, I know there are plenty of atheists that are just in it for the shock value of being an atheist among a sea of religion. I live adjacent to the Bible Belt. :/
Really? That seems strange.

So, I'd imagine that the shocking non-believers are young people as they're the ones that tend to like to defy society. Do you think that they'll grow out of it and into, or back into a faith?
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#99 Sep 29 2010 at 6:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I decided I needed a fresh start. I need to be less hateful and confrontational and just more pleasant all 'round. Honestly, I don't know why I posted all that nonsense before. I can be so silly sometimes. ^_^ Sorry to everyone I was rude to, or cussed out lately. Olive branch, etc.?


Also: Can I haz thread lock? I just want to put this foolishness behind me.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 10:45am by ShadorVIII
More like an "Oceania was always at war with Eastasia" kind of thing, really
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You don't need to have faith to acknowledge biblical stories, even if you don't buy the miracles, burning bushes and other mystical embellishments.


I accept the Bible as factual accounts from the perspective of people who told them. So yeah, God appeared as a burning bush. To someone who was quite likely stoned on mushrooms or something at the time. Ezekial saw flying wheels in the sky - during one of this "episodes."

These days, we can distinguish between reality, mental illness, and a bad trip. During Antiquity and Biblical times, folks didn't have those separate classifications - what was real was what one experienced. So if someone claimed to have been visited by an angel that said it was okay, God knocked up your girlfriend, marry her anyway - who were we to call him crazy?

It was recorded as it was told. That doesn't mean it's true.


Of course, there is the fact that some, if not all, of these "vision" books (i.e. Daniel, Revelation), were allegorical stories constructed years, decades, or longer after the events they were supposed to depict. Not to mention that the whole Pentatuch is a stiched together mess from at least four sources, some of which was not even written until near the time of the exile.




U-turns. I does them.



Edited, Sep 29th 2010 8:55am by ShadorVIII
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#101 Sep 29 2010 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
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Ezekial saw flying wheels in the sky - during one of this "episodes."
Alien spacecraft, IMO.
He went on to work as a songwriter for Journey...
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