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Except that we haven't been turned down by anyone we've approached for investment/partnerships since I've been there? It usually works the other way around in fact. We've decided to turn down several other companies/groups don't meet our needs (their dress codes were not evaluated). It turns out that smart investors and partners care way more about whether they think your product will be profitable for them than how much you paid for your cloths.

I'm sorry my anecdotes and studies don't move you more than your anecdotes and (my other) studies, but if dress codes don't demonstrate noticeable positive improvement in behavior the best choice is still to not have them in order to decrease the financial burden on parents.

Again duder, really? I'm talking about respecting my children enough to trust their judgment regarding their dress and your best response is this? I mean granted, I was talking well over your head but I didn't expect you'd resort to ancient insults. Haha, you dim plebe, does anything about me suggest I don't know exactly who I am? I'm not the one preaching conformity as virtue.

We've talked, Ugly. We both know that I'm vastly more intelligent than you. You'd do yourself a favor to listen to me from time to time, this being such an occasion.

I think it's more like the community has to come together and decide for themselves how they want to proceed. I'm sure there are situations where it works better and situations where it's worse.

But hell, it's all speculation anyway.

Silver or cold iron?

I think the most dressed up I've ever seen my research professor in college dressed up was collared shirt + slacks, most of the time it was ************ or crazy plaids shirts.

Cloths don't buy respect, actions do.

While this is true, clothes give you a first impression and with that a lot of people's opinion about you has already been formed.

Thus, if you're doing bussiness you can't really escape wearing a suit because a suit says "I do bussiness" on the first glance, and depending on how expensive it is, how well it fits etc etc people will without realizing it figure out a lot more about you.

shintasama, you said that customers don't see you. So the people customers/clients do see, how are they expected to dress? What would their bosses say if said customer-gathering people showed up to meet with a client in say, torn jeans, or with green hair? Or perhaps in flip flops? Or t-shirts with profanity on them?

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 3:14pm by Poldaran

Dress codes are silly, imo. We've all gotten so stupid that we immediately judge a book by it's cover. It's sad that in order for a book to have a chance to be read it has to play pretend and change it's cover to match some silly preset expectations. One of the most used proverbs our society teaches children is not to do this.

Rules that make sense, I have no problem with. No cellphones on in class, no long hair when working with food (Or use a hair net), etc. Most kids are going to think this way, and are going to rebel against things that don't make sense to them. (Though, sometimes kids just rebel to rebel- but the reasoning behind those actions are a completely different subject.) There is also a fine line between some tattoos and piercings/clothes/hair. The former is not as easily reversible as the latter. And because of that difference I can understand, and for the most part agree, about the problems with tattoos and white collar jobs.


Exactly how well does he need to dress before he's apparently cares? Cargo Pants? Khakis? Dress pants? Why is it that wearing jeans means he doesn't care; Some silly preconceived notion that jeans are disrespectful in the white collar environment? I have a hard time conforming to a viewpoint that makes no sense. I'm not stubborn enough to not dress up to appease silly people like you when looking for a job, but I will "dress down" as much as possible to a more efficient, more comfortable set of clothes so I can do my work easier.

On a separate front, more directly related to the original topic:
I don't know about you, but children wearing ties and dressing up for no reason, in school, to get ready for doing it years in the future seems pretty stupid to me. Especially considering not all children grow up deciding to go into white collar jobs. I'm with BT on this one; They should appreciate their freedom while they can, I know I am. The day I have to start wearing some uncomfortable piece of sh*t on my legs with no pocket space is going to be a sad day for me. For now, I will continue going to class in pajamas because there is no dress code.

Resorting to attacking his alcoholic problems shows how pathetic your argument really is. Him being on the straight and narrow for as long as he has gives me infinitely more respect for him, especially with the way he carries his demeanor. If he relapses, then and only then will your personal attack have mass; whereas his personal attack is based off the current mindset that you are expressing at this very moment in time.

Edited, Sep 18th 2010 6:25pm by Deadgye

You do it yourself too though.
Try and pay attention to it, each time you look at some random person you'll have an opinion or thought on who that person is.
Just do it some time when you're shopping for groceries or something, look at people and try to figure out as much as you can about them without speaking to them.

Honestly, how many meaningful first impressions do you make in person, any more? Most first contacts are made via the phone or online, where you can have metal in your face or be morbidly obese or even black, and no one knows or cares. What some ******* in line at the grocery thinks of your outfit is pretty fUcking inconsequential. A great many of you are just sick fUcks who need to make children suffer.

Unless clothes and jewelry pose a safety risk to a child or others, I don't see where a school should care about making rules against what one can wear during school hours. Large hoop earrings or nose rings that can get caught on equipment is one thing, but as long as her nose stud is not large it should be okay. Back when I was in 4th grade my elementary school had to rule that my brother's paisley jeans were too distracting and kept students from paying attention in class, but then it was the 60's and those jeans shouted the colors were so loud. The 6th graders were allowed to wear any thing they liked one day a week, until they went too far with kids showing up in bathing suits.

Baltimore City Schools started suggesting kids wear uniforms back in 1989 starting with elementary students. As parents we like the fact that a couple uniforms cost a lot less then trying to keep ones kids in the latest fads in fashion.

By the time my youngest went to high school, the dress code was Khakis and a polo t-shirt in the schools colors. Instead of dress down Fridays, they were expected to were professional business attire one day a week, so we had to buy her dress slacks and blouses for those days. I think she wore size 1 petite at the time and we had hard time finding anything small enough for her.

Outside of school they could dress anyway they wanted and I ended up spending more money on her work clothes then I did on school uniforms. Then work for her back then require a bodice or corset, chemise and a few skirts and boots. Just the bodice was $95 and if she didn't wear the same size boots as me, she would have had to spend more then she made in a month on her own hand made boots.

Thankfully she also went to work for her sister painting houses wear she only needed to worry about not wearing good clothes. Now she is a stay at home mom and very well dress from what I seen in photos and person (2 days in last year)

Medieval Times?