Delaware politicsFollow

And the second that conservatives advocate passing a law automatically deporting any citizen who isn't employed, you'll have a point.

What conservatives are actually opposed to is the creation of laws which make it easier for people to not work and not suffer any of the natural consequences of that condition. I'll point out again the tendency for the left to fail to recognize the difference between acting in a way which hurts someone and failing to act in a way which helps them. If I *don't* provide you with welfare benefits, I'm not creating laws to hurt you, I'm simply not creating laws to help you. Those really are two very significantly different things.

Conservatives believe in individual liberty coupled with individual responsibility. You are supposed to take responsibility for your life, not the government. We don't hold that position because we hate people and want them to suffer. We hold that position because we understand that the degree to which the government takes responsibility for your life is also the same degree to which the government controls your life. We understand the relationship between liberty and government intervention.


My point is that some liberals do as well. Which is precisely why the "causes" of the left are so carefully framed in purely helpful terms. The bulk of liberals are constantly told that what they're doing is helping this group or that group. They're told not to think about government "size" since that's not what this is about, right? It's all about feeding the hungry, helping the helpless, and fighting against social injustice inherent in the world around them. Ignore the big government man behind the curtain! He's not something you need concern yourself with. Just keep your blinders firmly attached and look at the important causes in front of you!


At the end of the day, intention is wonderful, but we really ought to look at results as well, right?

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I believe one just did.

Er? Who?

gbaji,

Is there not also a dangerous line to be drawn for corporate control? I don't think there's any real question as to the existence of the class war, or the hand of "business interests" in the US government... Are you not ignoring the big business man behind the curtain in this sense?

Gbaji,



Don't forget preserving the climate against the evils of humanity.


p.s. Did you hear we're not supposed to call it global warming anymore?

Anthropogenic. Unless you mean to add arms and legs to it and put it in a children's cartoon.

Don't let her watch Fern Gully, then.

It's exactly what I would expect to see from the horror show that is anthro-con.

gbaji,

Yet can you honestly stand and say, with a straight face, that those regulations are being followed? Tylenol, Walmart, BP, how many more examples do you need before it's a problem?

Republicans are by nature authoritarian. That means they have plenty of intention to tell you what you can and can't do.

Aripya,



I think it's a great idea. Now why don't you take that back to your Dems buddies and we can start enacting this dream of equality by shutting down the irs and instituting a flat tax.

Do you think 60% of the people should be able to agree that 5% should pay all the taxes?

Right now our tax laws don't apply to everyoe equally and the Dems have no intention of ever changing this.

And that's exactly what you have been taught to assume. But when we actually look at the policies and actions of the two parties, we find that the opposite is actually true. That's kinda the point I'm making here, that people are taught to assume that "conservative=authoritarian" and "liberal=liberty" so just repeating the assertion is meaningless. Perhaps if you actually looked around you, it might help to see the truth.