I'd think she'd be batting her eyes at the RNC right about now...but apparently she's thumbing her nose at them.
Perseverance has never really been a winning quality in political elections. I'm hoping third time is not a charm in this case.
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Well, the RNC already said they're not wasting money on her. Again, from a political perspective, that makes sense -- put your resources where they'll count. A dollar spent in Delaware is one not spendable in California or Nevada or Illinois. Sure it doesn't make O'Donnell or her supporters very happy though.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
If you want to have a voice, alienating moderates isn't the way to do it.
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varusword75 wrote:
Jophed,
You still just don't get it. This election is as much about getting the establishment rino's out of power as the democrats.
If this woman loses so be it. Lose on the what true conservative gopers believe in. We get enough people who think along these lines and we'll be able to shut down DC at the very least.
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Democrats keep the Senate this cycle. Thanks, Palin!
You still just don't get it. This election is as much about getting the establishment rino's out of power as the democrats.
If this woman loses so be it. Lose on the what true conservative gopers believe in. We get enough people who think along these lines and we'll be able to shut down DC at the very least.
I seem to recall you laughing at all the Democrats who voted for healthcare reform knowing it could make their next election season hard. I also seem to recall Joph saying something like "Hey, if they had to pick a hill to die on at least they got something done." So much of a better idea to throw out your moderate members knowing you'll lose and get nothing accomplished. Good thinking :-P
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And you're making an awful big assumption that the residents of Delaware aren't going to choose O'Donnell.
Thing is we conservative gopers don't give a sh*t what you think we should do to gain power. We know it's all bs anyway.
Thing is we conservative gopers don't give a sh*t what you think we should do to gain power. We know it's all bs anyway.
Considering that Castle vs Coons was around 50 to 47, and Coons against O'Donnell is like 47 to 36... yeah... not that big of an assumption. Delaware is pretty centrist as a state overall - lots of independents.
And we know GOPers don't care what they have to do to gain power (cwutididthar?). Case in point how Castle had to fend off rumors of a gay affair in the past few weeks admittedly made up by O'Donnell's former campaign spokesperson, which she herself refused to deny.
She doesn't seem quite as crazy as Sharron Angle, but O'Donnell is a poor candidate.
Edited, Sep 15th 2010 10:48am by LockeColeMA
varusword75 wrote:
You still just don't get it. This election is as much about getting the establishment rino's out of power as the democrats.
Oh, I get it. I just think it's silly to let blind ideology trump pragmatism. It's like throwing away a cake out of spite because it's missing a slice and you demanded to get the whole thing. You could have had yourself 75% of a delicious cake and now you get 0% and a sense of smugness.
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If this woman loses so be it. [...] We get enough people who think along these lines and we'll be able to shut down DC at the very least.
"Shutting down Washington" requires you to get people who win elections.
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Thing is we conservative gopers don't give a sh*t what you think we should do to gain power. We know it's all bs anyway.
"You gain power by winning elections" isn't exactly sneaky liberal propaganda, it's 4th grade social studies when they explain what the funny white building with the round top in DC is for.
Edited, Sep 15th 2010 9:49am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Quoted without comment besides the giggles:
Political Wire wrote:
Key quote from O'Donnell: "Well, creationism, in essence, is believing that the world began as the Bible in Genesis says, that God created the Earth in six days, six 24-hour periods. And there is just as much, if not more, evidence supporting that."
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, she's shored up the crazies anyway.
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Go with what you know I guess.
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varusword75 wrote:
Thing is the mood of the country has moved away from the "moderates" to people either voting for or against conservatism.
Setting aside this argument for the rest of the nation, it seems safe to say "Not in Delaware, it hasn't".
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The GOP base is going to get out and vote.
In Delaware, the GOP "base" is around 30%. O'Donnell's polling is around 37%. She already has her base.
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That got us an unelectably moderate Mccain.
McCain had many issues but being too moderate wasn't one of them.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
Didn't you say the same thing about Scott Brown?
No. I didn't comment much on that election at all, especially prior to the vote. I just watched Coakley run an especially weak race which I don't think is a mistake Coons will make. That was really the only silver lining to the Mass special election: a shot over the bow that Democratic candidates couldn't afford to be complacent.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
O'Donnell is now the top story on Politico. I couldn't help but guffaw at a few of the things described in there. How could anybody honestly wish for this woman to be in a(ny) position of responsibility?
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Political Wire wrote:
A new Public Policy Polling survey in Delaware shows Chris Coons (D) begins with a solid lead over Christine O'Donnell (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 50% to 34%.
PPP was the survey firm that predicted the O'Donnell win last night when the safe money was still supposedly on Castle.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I don't think the GOP has a decade of relevance left in it. I love these Tea Party tools.
Demea wrote:
O'Donnell is now the top story on Politico. I couldn't help but guffaw at a few of the things described in there. How could anybody honestly wish for this woman to be in a(ny) position of responsibility?
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
Just read that article. What a piece of work, wow.
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Demea wrote:
O'Donnell is now the top story on Politico. I couldn't help but guffaw at a few of the things described in there. How could anybody honestly wish for this woman to be in a(ny) position of responsibility?
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
I would still do her, but probably not call her the next day.
Just read that article. What a piece of work, wow.
Still not as crazy as some other Tea Party candidates, but out there, for sure.
varusword75 wrote:
this gop lady can't hold a candle to their kind of insanity.
She's not really a GOP lady, though. The party at large has said "Palin, Limbaugh, and the Tea Party got her this far; they can see her the rest of the way through. We're not supporting the cause until she turns around in the polls."
The RNSC (I mistakenly said RNC before) has about-faced before the throngs of angry Tea Party folks and decided it will send her money after all. Which is fine with me... less money for states in play.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
Jophed,
Attack the tea party at your own peril.
The best thing Dems running for office can do right now is take a two month vacation and leave the country.
Attack the tea party at your own peril.
The best thing Dems running for office can do right now is take a two month vacation and leave the country.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Even better, splitting their own party in two. That's a guaranteed failure for this election.
It's not a split though.
I haven't read most of this thread yet, but...
So long as there are two competing candidates with (arguably) vastly different ideologies, the party may as well be considered "split".
ETA: Even if the party isn't split, the vote will be.
Edited, Sep 15th 2010 2:03pm by BrownDuck
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