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#127 Sep 08 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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"I was delivering something to someone else in the building and thought I'd drop by and give you my card!"
Solution.


Apparently in Japan, the handling of business cards is serious business. It's considered extremely rude to take the card and fold it in any way, or to place it in your back pocket and sit on it.
#128 Sep 08 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
"I was delivering something to someone else in the building and thought I'd drop by and give you my card!"
Solution.


Apparently in Japan, the handling of business cards is serious business. It's considered extremely rude to take the card and fold it in any way, or to place it in your back pocket and sit on it.
But it's ok to buy used panties from a vending machine. Should we really care about what they consider good etiquette?

sorry, I don't think I'll ever let that vending machine thing go
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#129 Sep 08 2010 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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But it's ok to buy used panties from a vending machine. Should we really care about what they consider good etiquette?


If we're in Japan, I'd say yes.
#130 Sep 08 2010 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
There's a no soliciting sign up at the front of our building. It doesn't stop people, though. We get copy machine people and office supply people who say stuff like, "I was delivering something to someone else in the building and thought I'd drop by and give you my card!"

I hate them. It's difficult to get them to leave, and it's especially annoying when our recptionist is gone to do the banking and I happen to be up front mailing a letter. They don't understand that I have more important things to do than listen to their awesome recitation of their entire catalog.


God, I hate that. I get it all the time. But I'm usually polite enough to say "I'm sorry, but I don't have the time right now. Can you leave me your literature and I'll be happy to pass it along."

When I'm not polite, it goes along the lines of "I'm up against a hard deadline right now and can't give you an opportunity of time. Thank you." and I go on about my work.
#131 Sep 08 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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But it's ok to buy used panties from a vending machine. Should we really care about what they consider good etiquette?


If we're in Japan, I'd say yes.
What if one of them tries to sniff your panties? Would you let them while you're in Japan?



Who the hell bends a business card or puts it in their back pocket anyway? Either you want to keep it and you protect it, or you don't and you use it as a substitute toothpick.
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#132 Sep 08 2010 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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What if one of them tries to sniff your panties? Would you let them while you're in Japan?


Seriously...? Your attitude towards anything Japanese is starting to sound almost American, Ugly.

Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Who the hell bends a business card or puts it in their back pocket anyway? Either you want to keep it and you protect it, or you don't and you use it as a substitute toothpick.


A lot of guys keep their wallets in their back pocket, don't they?
#133 Sep 08 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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What, so now America has a strangle hold on being ignorant and bigoted?!





Who puts a business card in their wallet?
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#134 Sep 08 2010 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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What, so now America has a strangle hold on being ignorant and bigoted?!

Who puts a business card in their wallet?


Where do you put yours, yankee-doodle? In your baseball cap?
#135 Sep 08 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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What, so now America has a strangle hold on being ignorant and bigoted?!


Smiley: lol


Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Who puts a business card in their wallet?


I don't know. I don't get business cards all that often, and I own a purse.
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Where do you put yours, yankee-doodle? In your baseball cap?
In my shirt pocket, until I get to my office and can put it in a business card index. And if you give me a business card when I'm not working, I'm throwing it out anyway.
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#137 Sep 08 2010 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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I must be too organized. I have a business card case in my purse for my own cards and I slip the ones I get in there. I exchange cards all the time.
#138 Sep 08 2010 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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'Cause God wanted it that way! Duh!

Probably to test our faith or something.
If you look at a well made banana....
What did God have against coconuts?
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#139 Sep 08 2010 at 5:49 PM Rating: Default
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Most people who believe in creation believe that God made the species of animals and plants and then allowed the rules of the world to take over from there


Now that sounds a whole hell of a lot like Deism to me, and most of the Creationists I know don't take kindly to that kind philosophy. In fact, quite a few denominations of Christianity would call that a blasphemy.


I'm not talking about Deism. I'm talking about God "creating" the world (how literally you take that process varies from religion to religion), and part of that creation includes all the biological and physical rules, which allow for change from that point on. That does not preclude the possibility of God being actively involved in the process from that point on either though.

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Edit: It could also be called theistic evolution, but that's a principle of Deism, so yeah. Still a blasphemy to a good chunk of peoples.


Except for all Catholics, and most Protestants. And well, really most Christians. You're focusing in on the smallest denominations with the most stringent interpretations of the bible and creation and then insisting that all other religious people must defend their positions.

My whole point is that this *isn't* what most people of faith believe. Not when you actually talk to them instead of relying on some half-baked survey.
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#140 Sep 08 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not when you actually talk to them instead of relying on some half-baked survey.

Catholic doctrine is that life evolved "naturally" from the beginning under the will of God. Which is in fact represented in each survey ("Biological life developed over time from simple substances, but God guided this process"). Maybe you should have some idea what you're talking about before you embarrass yourself further.
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#141 Sep 08 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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This seems like it'll be a productive discussion.
You're not allowed to make comments like that anymore. You're supposed to be setting an example for us, and preferably not a bad one like Kao does.


What the hell? did I **** in your cherreos recently or something?
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#142 Sep 08 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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Not when you actually talk to them instead of relying on some half-baked survey.

Catholic doctrine is that life evolved "naturally" from the beginning under the will of God. Which is in fact represented in each survey ("Biological life developed over time from simple substances, but God guided this process"). Maybe you should have some idea what you're talking about before you embarrass yourself further.


I'm aware of the Catholic position on this Joph. My point is that when presented with a choice, it seems like they always leave out key bits, or make it appear as though a given choice denies some aspect of their faith. Even the line you just quoted is going to rub many religious people the wrong way. It says nothing about where biological life came from. It puts God in the position of just being a caretaker after the fact. Put that in a poll along with "creation happened just as it says in the bible", and most religious people will choose the later.


Why? Because they aren't sure what precisely the former position means with regard to their own beliefs. They don't want to be accounted as believing that God didn't create the universe. You always have to pay attention to how the people taking a poll are going to view the choices they are given. And you also have to be aware that what people think a poll question means when they answer it is not always how it's going to be interpreted later. I've already pointed out (and I'm loosing track of which thread which points were made in) that quite often the responder is focusing on a different aspect of the choices than you are when you interpret them.

A respondent to a poll with those two choices isn't thinking about whether or not he believes that evolution is true. He's thinking about which choice says that the universe was created by God. Since only one of them says that, he's going to choose that one. Coming in after the fact and thinking that it's a broad issue of evolution is a mistake.
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#143 Sep 08 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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MDenham wrote:
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This seems like it'll be a productive discussion.
You're not allowed to make comments like that anymore. You're supposed to be setting an example for us, and preferably not a bad one like Kao does.


What the hell? did I **** in your cherreos recently or something?
See what I mean? :-D

No, I just felt like making a joke at multiple people's expense.
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gbaji wrote:
I'm aware of the Catholic position on this Joph.

Obviously not since you keep getting it wrong. But that's already been proven in the other thread and I don't need to have the same conversation twice.
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Jophiel wrote:
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I'm aware of the Catholic position on this Joph.

Obviously not since you keep getting it wrong. But that's already been proven in the other thread and I don't need to have the same conversation twice.
Your commitment to 100k posts is lacking.
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#146 Sep 08 2010 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
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Gbaji has made me doubt my faith in intelligent argument design. But not in fact creationism.
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
I'm aware of the Catholic position on this Joph.

Obviously not since you keep getting it wrong. But that's already been proven in the other thread and I don't need to have the same conversation twice.
Your commitment to 100k posts is lacking.


Smiley: lol
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#149 Sep 09 2010 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe you should buy a copy of Creationism For Dummies that's been revised? Paleontology & biology might have made some advances in the last thirty to fifty years.
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#150 Sep 09 2010 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
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It's pretty obvious you've never read Cosmos, because that quote is completely out of context.

My Copy of Cosmos wrote:
The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments are attempted on an improved design. But this notion is a little disconcerting. Each plant and animal is exquisitely made; should not a supremely competent Designer have been able to make the intended variety from the start? The fossil record implies trial and error, an inability to anticipate the future, features inconsistent with an efficient Great Designer (although not with a Designer of a more remote and indirect temperament).
#151 Sep 09 2010 at 10:06 PM Rating: Good
As if it needed to be said, the last two are complete ******** as well.
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