varusword75 wrote:
bsphil,
You know just saying it doesn't make it true.
You know just saying it doesn't make it true.
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#103gbaji,
Posted: Sep 07 2010 at 8:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeah. Pretty much. Shocking really! That people who hold liberal views would attack a conservative US president and then shower praise on a liberal one. Yes. That's the best way to judge this.
#104gbaji,
Posted: Sep 07 2010 at 8:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh please God! Not this again...
No, but the facts that my statements are based on do.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
varusword75 wrote:
Of course logical thinking individuals understand that the rest of the world is happiest when america is at it's weakest.
Oh wait....
gbaji wrote:
Obama is getting a lot more criticism from foreign leaders than Bush was, even when he was invading Iraq. There are almost no EU leaders right now saying that they think Obama is handling the economy correctly. When even a group of mostly socialists think you're going too far with domestic spending and big government, you might want to rethink your strategy.
Our former prime minister has had a lot of critique for being dumb enough to blindly follow Bush into a war.
It doesn't help that our political right is probably closer to your political left than to your political right.
edit: by a lot of critique I also mean that his party lost half their seats in this summer's election.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 10:33am by Aethien
varusword75 wrote:
I don't hear TX asking for a huge state bailout; like Ca or NY.
Because we already got one?
varusword75 wrote:
bsphil,
What facts? You know you should actually post your "facts" before bragging about them.
My facts show me that if you combine all federal debt from liberal states and compare them to conservative ones the liberal states get more money.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/research_desk_responds_do_cons.html
But you don't have to convince me to support cutting federal unemployment and healthcare benefits for the bums who refuse to work and take care of themselves.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 9:33am by varusword75
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No, but the facts that my statements are based on do.
What facts? You know you should actually post your "facts" before bragging about them.
My facts show me that if you combine all federal debt from liberal states and compare them to conservative ones the liberal states get more money.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/06/research_desk_responds_do_cons.html
But you don't have to convince me to support cutting federal unemployment and healthcare benefits for the bums who refuse to work and take care of themselves.
Edited, Sep 8th 2010 9:33am by varusword75
Right... and bsphil wrote:
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If that's the case then why are nearly all of the conservative voting states receiving more federal tax dollars than they pay in, while the traditionally liberal voting states receive fewer than they pay in?
And, from your article:
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Some commenters suggested that joemomma1 actually meant to ask whether it's true that Republican states are more likely to get more in federal expenditures than they pay in taxes. This is, in fact, true; nationally Republican states West Virginia and Alaska and swing state New Mexico have the highest expenditure to tax burden ratio, while New Jersey and Connecticut have the lowest, with California and New York not far behind. For more, see the Tax Foundation's report, "Federal Tax Burdens and Expenditures by State". The data is slightly out of date, but the basic point still holds.
So, he's proven right by the very source you quoted. Well done, Varus. You make it easy :)
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So, he's proven right by the very source you quoted.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Obama is getting a lot more criticism from foreign leaders than Bush was, even when he was invading Iraq. There are almost no EU leaders right now saying that they think Obama is handling the economy correctly. When even a group of mostly socialists think you're going too far with domestic spending and big government, you might want to rethink your strategy.
Our former prime minister has had a lot of critique for being dumb enough to blindly follow Bush into a war.
I'm talking about how the leaders feel, and how they respond to Obama, not how the vocal people within their society feel.
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It doesn't help that our political right is probably closer to your political left than to your political right.
Yes, but even the political leaders of your left are questioning the sanity of Obama's actions since taking office. Likely because they are smart enough to know how to place limits on even their own positions. Obama doesn't.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Well, so far Obama hasn't manhandled any Germans during an international conference. So we got that going for us...
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
gbaji wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Orrr.... not really.
Our former prime minister has had a lot of critique for being dumb enough to blindly follow Bush into a war.
Our former prime minister has had a lot of critique for being dumb enough to blindly follow Bush into a war.
And when our Prime Minister tried to downplay the results from that investigation and refused to publicly apologize he was attacked from all sides for it.
Gbaji wrote:
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It doesn't help that our political right is probably closer to your political left than to your political right.
Yes, but even the political leaders of your left are questioning the sanity of Obama's actions since taking office. Likely because they are smart enough to know how to place limits on even their own positions. Obama doesn't.
But keep deluding yourself into thinking that you know more about my country and it's politicians than I do if that entertains you though.
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Wrong again, there are some complaints about Obama of course and he does see criticism but overall we're still just really happy and thankful that Obama won the elections and we didn't get another wacko like Bush @#%^ing stuff up even further.
Seriously, have you looked at McCain and Palin recently? Obama isn't perfect, but I still feel like the majority definitely made the right choice two years ago.
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