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Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Jophed
Hi.
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You should know by now that Obama isn't going to allow any information to be released that could be used against him.
What brought that on? Were you and I having a conversation I didn't know about?
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What about all your talk about transparency and openness?
When did I ever ask for any GOP member's birth certificates, college transcripts or vacation costs?
Give in to the red, Joph. I'm the new you. You're the new me.
Except with like, tens of thousands of more posts and a basic Excellent score. And gyros. Delicious gyros.
I would assume a pretty low amount since both the DNC and RNC rely on private contributions instead of tax dollars.
On the other hand, RNC contributors have been less than thrilled with how the RNC has been spending money with Steele at the helm.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
I understand you're in a delusional state of mind based on the reality that Obama is the worst president in the history of the US.
I think FDR is still worse but he had a lot more time to get stuff passed, this is only Pres. Obama's first term so that's kinda an inaccurate assumption/opinion to make no?
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varusword75 wrote:
FDR is a close second. Obama has done his best to ***** up this economy solely for the purpose of putting the govn in the position of being able to assume control over the housing market, auto industry, and the health industry.
Also, no Carter? I swear he was your go to "worst president ever"
Unless we're talking about national debt, in which case it's Bush followed by Bush followed by Reagan for worst president in recent history. [1][2]
varusword75 wrote:
spend years talking about transparency in govn and bashing W based on his grades in college
You're conflating things. I've never once demanded that Bush release any college transcripts.
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Are you really saying you never talked about W being fiscally responsible?
In regards to his vacations? Yes, I'm really saying that. There's an operating budget for the White House to cover travel and entertainment expenses. Be it on a couple trips to Europe or a couple dozen trips to Crawford or one long flight in circles around the equator until the budget is exhausted. It's not as though Obama (or any president) just goes to the drawer of tax dollars and pulls out a fistful before taking off.
I suppose if you're that worried about it, you can write to your Congresscritters to lower the White House's budget in the next year so there's less money to be spent on travel & entertainment. It's not a big worry of mine but you seem shook up about it so I'd start there.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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It's not as though Obama (or any president) just goes to the drawer of tax dollars and pulls out a fistful before taking off.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
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It's not as though Obama (or any president) just goes to the drawer of tax dollars and pulls out a fistful before taking off.
Sometimes, like just now, I write up a big ol' post with lots of quotes and citations, but after I reread it, I stop myself from posting it, since it won't make a lick of difference to stubborn stupid people.
#64gbaji,
Posted: Sep 03 2010 at 2:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am far from the only person making this observation. If you'd lift your head out of the bubble you're in, you'd notice that this is the same response pretty much every single conservative provides when people try to compare Bush's vacations to Obama's vacations. And it's not because we read it in some news article or something. It's because it's pretty darn self evident (obvious even!).
#65gbaji,
Posted: Sep 03 2010 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So one might presume that the difference in vacation days isn't so much about who is slacking off more, but who is more thrifty with the cost per day of the vacations they take.
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He worked while at the Ranch.
gbaji wrote:
So one might presume that the difference in vacation days isn't so much about who is slacking off more, but who is more thrifty with the cost per day of the vacations they take.
One would be wrong. Provided they stay in their budget, the president could blow the entire thing hosting a giant Super Bowl kegger in the Pyramid of Giza for all it really matters. Unless the result is the White House needing emergency appropriation in order to entertain the Queen of Norway, who cares?
If anything mattered, I'd say it was days taken where the president is probably not working at "full capacity" even if he is still in the loop. I'm not saying either is of tremendous importance but the budgeted funds are the budgeted funds regardless of how they're spent on a cost per day basis. Spending X dollars over fifteen days isn't better than spending the same amount over three days provided "X" is within the budget. Three days out of the office though will always be less than fifteen days out of the office.
Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 4:19pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Face it Gbaji, the real point is that conservatives will whine about everything that Obama does, for as long as he's in office, and for years after that. They don't need a real reason.
#69gbaji,
Posted: Sep 03 2010 at 5:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) But three days out of the office is more than 15 days spent in a facility designed to be a second office.
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But three days out of the office is more than 15 days spent in a facility designed to be a second office.
#71gbaji,
Posted: Sep 03 2010 at 6:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Given that Crawford was set up specifically to be a remote white house office, it's reasonable to assume that significant amounts of work was done there. Especially on his longer stays. Meanwhile, I doubt seriously that much if any work was done while staying in hotels at the Grand Canyon, or in Hawaii, or at a villa on Martha's Vineyard. There's a huge difference between puttering around in the yard, a few hundred feet from a functioning and completely plugged in office and spending hours at a time walking through tourist traps, eating ice cream, having lunch with the kids, going swimming, etc.
gbaji wrote:
Yes. And the point is that while at the Crawford Ranch, Bush was able to work at "full capacity".
It's nice that you believe this. Every president does their best work while clearing brush for photo-ops.
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I suppose it's a difference of work ethics and whatnot. Republicans [...] Democrats [...]
Hahaha... yeah, that must be it. Keep on with the blind defense and ideological spewing, Gbaji. You're always good for a laugh.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#73gbaji,
Posted: Sep 03 2010 at 6:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And yet, the reality is that every single Republican president in the last 40 years has set up a remote office, and taken the overwhelming percentage of their vacation time at those locations, while Democrats tend to take vacations by actually leaving anything resembling an office and going out jet-setting and whatnot.
gbaji wrote:
And I suppose that after the photo-op was over, he just kept on clearing brush for 15 days straight
Beats me. Obviously he was looking to do things he couldn't do in DC or else he'd have stayed where the file cabinets were. Why, it's almost as though he was... vacationing!
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You're making this to easy Joph! At least *try* to make a coherent argument...
Luckily, I'm not the one who'd have us think it's soooo tough being on vacation at Crawford that we should have practically paid poor Bush time and a half when he was there.
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And yet, the reality is that every single Republican president in the last 40 years has set up a remote office
We already have a White House. Maybe if people didn't take hundreds of days of vacation, they wouldn't need the expense of setting up a second one to justify all their time away from the Oval Office.
This is fun. Do continue.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Professor shintasama wrote:
Also, no Carter? I swear he was your go to "worst president ever"
Seriously, the country probably would be recovering from WW3 had Kennedy not been assassinated - he was that bad.
MDenham wrote:
Professor shintasama wrote:
Also, no Carter? I swear he was your go to "worst president ever"
Seriously, the country probably would be recovering from WW3 had Kennedy not been assassinated - he was that bad.
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