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#1 Sep 01 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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We discussed this yonks ago, but I was interested in folks' views.

BBC Article by an American based in UK

Includes this chart

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Because I have more than 10 years continuous service, I have 33 days paid leave per year, plus the 8 (I think) statutory days for Christmas, Easter etc.

I usually end up having between 2 and 8 days unused each year which I can't carry over or take in pay, but it seems we may be a smidgen over-generous in this economic clime.

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#2 Sep 01 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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I get three weeks vacation a year. That's pretty standard in Canada from what I've seen, although not necessary.
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#3 Sep 01 2010 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
As of my 10th anniversary here, I now have 4 weeks of paid vacation per year, as well as paid holiday time off.

ETA: That chart confuses me. Why does it have a big goose egg by the US?



Edited, Sep 1st 2010 2:26pm by Belkira
#4 Sep 01 2010 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:

ETA: That chart confuses me. Why does it have a big goose egg by the US?

Sorry to baffle you belky. The chart includes what we call "words", some of which say "Guaranteed by Law".
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#5 Sep 01 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's legislated holidays. Companies are required to give a minimum amount of vacation time.
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#6 Sep 01 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
Lord Nobby wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:

ETA: That chart confuses me. Why does it have a big goose egg by the US?

Sorry to baffle you belky. The chart includes what we call "words", some of which say "Guaranteed by Law".
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Apparently I got distracted by the pretty pictures. Smiley: blush

In countries that treat workers better than ours (read: all) do part-time workers get mandatory time off, too?

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 2:30pm by Belkira
#7 Sep 01 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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My organization starts you out earning 8-hours vacation for each month worked. That goes up by 2hours/month every five years.

I currently get 21 days/yr. My position, being of a specialty nature also yields me an additional 3 days of personal time. Supposedly I can use these 3 days without discretion. Though, you don't really need much lead time or approval for using up any of your vaca time around here.

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#8 Sep 01 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Yet another reason why I'm moving out of the US ASAP.
#9 Sep 01 2010 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
As of my 10th anniversary here, I now have 4 weeks of paid vacation per year, as well as paid holiday time off.

ETA: That chart confuses me. Why does it have a big goose egg by the US?



Edited, Sep 1st 2010 2:26pm by Belkira


Because none is guaranteed by law, I guess.

I have a nine month academic position. I can work the other three months, and I do work on average about half time during that time, but we don't need the extra money. I would not trade my position for anything, anywhere.
#10 Sep 01 2010 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:


In countries that treat workers better than ours (read: all) do part-time workers get mandatory time off, too?
In UK, yes. It's pro-rata to hours worked. I think that's true of the EU as a whole.
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#11 Sep 01 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
Lord Nobby wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:


In countries that treat workers better than ours (read: all) do part-time workers get mandatory time off, too?
In UK, yes. It's pro-rata to hours worked. I think that's true of the EU as a whole.


It must be nice to have a government that seems to care... Smiley: lol
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I get the traditional six major holidays off (New Year, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas) plus I get three weeks off. Sort of. Actually, I accumulate vacation time throughout the year and cap at three weeks accumulation but I could squeeze a little more time out by taking some whenever I get close to my cap. Oh, and a handful of "personal" days for illness, family emergencies, etc. So I guess it works out to 26-30 days off depending on how the year goes.
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#13 Sep 01 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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I get the traditional six major holidays off (New Year, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas) plus I get three weeks off. Sort of. Actually, I accumulate vacation time throughout the year and cap at three weeks accumulation but I could squeeze a little more time out by taking some whenever I get close to my cap. Oh, and a handful of "personal" days for illness, family emergencies, etc. So I guess it works out to 26-30 days off depending on how the year goes.
Hmm.

We have statutory sick pay (SSP) here, along with individual employers' enhancements.

Now this I find hard to defend. I can take sick days on full pay without a doctor's note for up to 5 days. With a doctor's note, I'm entitled to full sick pay for up to 6 months, and half pay for a further 3 months.

I've rarely used it but was grateful when I broke my hand and was signed off by the medic for 10 weeks.

We can be dismissed for taking excessive sick leave (E.g. regularly calling in sick on Mondays etc.)
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#14 Sep 01 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
I "officially" get eight paid sick days a year, which we are paid for if we don't use them. I don't think that's mandatory or anything, though.

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I work for a small manufacturing company. Not counting holidays, I get 1 week paid vacation (5 days). If I spend five years with the company, it goes up to 10 days! I can take off additional days for sickness or whatever, but as I'm paid hourly and not salaried, I simply don't get paid for those days.




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#16 Sep 01 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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I think I may be up to four weeks worth of PTO a year(used for both vacations and sick days). Since I work in a business open year round, I don't holidays off, but I do get paid extra if I have to work them. I'm boring, so I tend to work most of them if scheduled, but since I have seniority in my department(by six years over the next most senior person), I could have any or all holidays off if I wanted, though I wouldn't get the extra pay.
#17 Sep 01 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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We can be dismissed for taking excessive sick leave (E.g. regularly calling in sick on Mondays etc.)
We have a similar policy - but it needs pretty strict documentation over a long time period. It's hard to actually can anyone for it.

We accumulate sick time a day a month. If you call in sick more than 3 days in a row, the supervisor can request a doctor's note. We also can donate vacation time to others sick leave. So, if a friendly co-worker suffers a long term illness we can all help make sure they can cover the bills. I like this perk.

We get 12 paid vacation days a year.

This year and next year we're also getting 10days/year off unpaid because of a budget shortage - that didn't turn out to be short. This is mandated. We don't get to pick when we take these unpaid days off. Meh.

I got a 4 day weekend coming up.

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#18 Sep 01 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Default
I work when I want to make money. I give my full time staff 2 weeks paid vacation plus holidays (labor day, thanksgiving, christmas, new years, and july fourth) and 3 sick days.

#19 Sep 01 2010 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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I work when I want to make money. I give my full time staff 2 weeks paid vacation plus holidays (labor day, thanksgiving, christmas, new years, and july fourth) and 3 sick days.

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#20 Sep 01 2010 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Four weeks, use it or lose it, plus eight holidays. Unless I need to take disability for some reason, sick leave and vacation days are all the same thing; it's just a PTO basket that I can use as I see fit.
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#21 Sep 01 2010 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Technically, I have 10 days of Paid Time Off (PTO), and a separate 5 days of paid sick leave. However, since our group frequently travels on the weekends, we accumulate an additional day of PTO for each week that we're out of the country (not a company policy, only a group policy). We usually take these when we get back home to sleep off the jet lag, but we can also bank them.

This is in addition to 8 corporate holidays, and one floating holiday (this year, they put it on the Monday after July 4th to give us a 4-day weekend).
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We have statutory sick pay (SSP) here, along with individual employers' enhancements.

Now this I find hard to defend. I can take sick days on full pay without a doctor's note for up to 5 days. With a doctor's note, I'm entitled to full sick pay for up to 6 months, and half pay for a further 3 months.

I've rarely used it but was grateful when I broke my hand and was signed off by the medic for 10 weeks.

We can be dismissed for taking excessive sick leave (E.g. regularly calling in sick on Mondays etc.)


Pretty much this.

We accrue leave as we go, so it applies to part time workers too. Mine works out to about 28 days a year, but because I am only working about 16 hours a week atm, it builds up prety slowly. (Tho my weekends are already 5 days long so I dont need too many extra hours for a week off).

Also we get paid maternity/paternity leave. I had 8 weeks full pay and 6 weeks unpaid when our boy was born.

Also I 'work' for the health service, so its a bit like being paid to sit around at home reading the interwebz for much of the time anyway.

And I go home when my list is done. So sometimes I,m off by lunchtime, and other times I'm off at 5 or 6 depending on how useless the nursing staff are being that day.

Also, 'The mental health day' is catered to quite well in NZ.
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Not sure how things work with our international friends (or even out of state) but also, if I leave my job for any reason, my employeer is legally obligated to pay out the remainder of my unused vacation. So if I got fired right now for slacking on Alla's, I'd get a check for three week's wages out of the bargain.
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#24 Sep 01 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure how things work with our international friends (or even out of state) but also, if I leave my job for any reason, my employeer is legally obligated to pay out the remainder of my unused vacation. So if I got fired right now for slacking on Alla's, I'd get a check for three week's wages out of the bargain.


I have never heard that before. Hmm.
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Might be an Illinois thing. (Edit: It varies by state)

I know our "rolling" vacation accumulation schedule is set up to encourage us to make more time off. Because a year or so ago when they laid off a bunch of people, the owner was rather unhappy to have to cut some large checks as goodbye presents for people with full vacation banks.

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#26 Sep 01 2010 at 2:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, in Cali the vacation time you've accumulated, however it's calculated, is considered to be earned, same as salary. If you quit or get fired, you get compensated for however much PTO you have accumulated and unused.

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