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#77 Sep 15 2010 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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#78 Sep 15 2010 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Devil's advocate? Maybe, I don't think this girl did anything deserving of the bullying, the harassment and now a possibly legal consequences for killing these dogs - unless she polluted the river or something. Its hypocritical from anyone but the most staunch vegan.


Wow, you are just a stone-cold cUnt, aren't ya? FUcking stupid, too.


It's not hypocritical coming from anyone but dedicated vegans, and here's the rub, you dim *****: When an animal is killed for its meat, it gets fUcking eaten. Its death means more than just disposal. It has died so another can be sustained. These puppies? They're just being murdered.

What you're preaching isn't pragmatism, it's psychopathy, and I hope zombie puppies chew off your labia while you're sleeping.
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#80 Sep 15 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:

Devil's advocate? Maybe, I don't think this girl did anything deserving of the bullying, the harassment and now a possibly legal consequences for killing these dogs - unless she polluted the river or something. Its hypocritical from anyone but the most staunch vegan.


Wow, you are just a stone-cold cUnt, aren't ya? FUcking stupid, too.


It's not hypocritical coming from anyone but dedicated vegans, and here's the rub, you dim *****: When an animal is killed for its meat, it gets fUcking eaten. Its death means more than just disposal. It has died so another can be sustained. These puppies? They're just being murdered.

What you're preaching isn't pragmatism, it's psychopathy, and I hope zombie puppies chew off your labia while you're sleeping.
No it's no psychopathy. Unless you consider 99% of the population to be psychotic killers.

Sorry Eske, you claim you didn't watch the video but still maintain the girl found enjoyment in killing the puppies. Your statement isn't credible.

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#81 Sep 15 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe Elinda's secretly a serial killer.
Just because I don't brag about it on the forums doesn't mean I keep it all inside.
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#82 Sep 15 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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What you're preaching isn't pragmatism, it's psychopathy, and I hope zombie puppies chew off your labia while you're sleeping.
No it's no psychopathy. Unless you consider 99% of the population to be psychotic killers.


You don't know what psychopathy is. =(

I'll try and use smaller words for you going forward.

And you also seem to be under the impression that 99% of people are deluding themselves in the same manner as you. They aren't. You're damaged, less than whole, and there's no cure for it. Molested, right? Yeah, it's too bad someone did that to you and set you on your broken course. I shudder to imagine what your own offspring have suffered.

Yet I feel even for you, and puppies too, because no adult diddled me as a kiddo, I guess.

#83 Sep 15 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:

Sorry Eske, you claim you didn't watch the video but still maintain the girl found enjoyment in killing the puppies. Your statement isn't credible.


Reading his statements it seems he was commenting on how others who did watch the video (such as myself) seemed to perceive the girl very much enjoying tossing the yelping puppies into the river.
#84 Sep 15 2010 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
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It's not hypocritical coming from anyone but dedicated vegans, and here's the rub, you dim *****: When an animal is killed for its meat, it gets ******* eaten. Its death means more than just disposal. It has died so another can be sustained. These puppies? They're just being murdered.


That's not really the case, though, is it? It has died so another can derive pleasure from consuming its flesh. Its death is unnecessary to the continued health of the person eating it. Ethically, there's a pretty good equivalence. Sure, you don't have to be crazy to eat meat, and this girl is probably nuttier than a pecan pie, but I don't see how that's relevant. Being insane isn't immoral.
#85 Sep 15 2010 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
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What you're preaching isn't pragmatism, it's psychopathy, and I hope zombie puppies chew off your labia while you're sleeping.
No it's no psychopathy. Unless you consider 99% of the population to be psychotic killers.


You don't know what psychopathy is. =(

I'll try and use smaller words for you going forward.

And you also seem to be under the impression that 99% of people are deluding themselves in the same manner as you. They aren't. You're damaged, less than whole, and there's no cure for it. Molested, right? Yeah, it's too bad someone did that to you and set you on your broken course. I shudder to imagine what your own offspring have suffered.

Yet I feel even for you, and puppies too, because no adult diddled me as a kiddo, I guess.
I feel for you too BT. I'd even feel bad if you were sad because your dog died. I don't feel bad for your dog.

I do know what psychopathy means. I am not a psychopath. I don't derive any joy from other's pain or displeasure, even an animals. I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.



Edited, Sep 15th 2010 7:24pm by Elinda
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#86 Sep 15 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.


Learning that there are consequences to her actions and how to value any life, even that of abandoned puppies, will be incredibly valuable for her future.
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Elinda wrote:

Sorry Eske, you claim you didn't watch the video but still maintain the girl found enjoyment in killing the puppies. Your statement isn't credible.


Reading his statements it seems he was commenting on how others who did watch the video (such as myself) seemed to perceive the girl very much enjoying tossing the yelping puppies into the river.


Yes, that's the case. I'm basing it off secondhand information. I read that she says "Weee" or something like that as she tosses one of them, as well. I'm not planning on watching the video, so obviously I can't personally confirm any of that.

That's a whole other matter, anyhow. Animal cruelty isn't conditional on whether or not the perpetrator enjoyed themselves in the act. She is guilty of animal cruelty, and should be charged accordingly.

Why all the hand-wringing about the girl? I realize that the bullying and harassment are unwarranted, but that's no reason for her to skirt the crime that she very clearly committed. She'll pay a fine, people will forget about it eventually, and she'll move on to a productive life of killing humans in a few years. She'll be fine.

Edited, Sep 15th 2010 2:06pm by Eske
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I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.


Learning that there are consequences to her actions and how to value any life, even that of abandoned puppies, will be incredibly valuable for her future.


This.

A realization that actions have repercussions is why we have laws. She broke a law. Let her get away with it, and she may figure that she can try something bigger later.

It doesn't happen in every case, but a good bit of the time people who get away with lesser crimes are emboldend to try bigger ones. When they finally do get caught doing something major, their life is @#%^ed up a good bit more than if they had, perhaps, learned their lesson earlier.

Shielding people from the consequences of their actions is not doing them a favor. Quite the opposite, really. As a wise man once said: "Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."

Edited, Sep 15th 2010 2:23pm by ShadorVIII
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The only way to know how puppies react to drowning, euphoria or terror, would be to get some puppies and waterboard them.
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The One and Only ShadorVIII wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.


Learning that there are consequences to her actions and how to value any life, even that of abandoned puppies, will be incredibly valuable for her future.


This.

A realization that actions have repercussions is why we have laws. She broke a law. Let her get away with it, and she may figure that she can try something bigger later.

I'm not sure what law she broke, but getting death threats will certainly deter her from filming any further animal killings.

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#91 Sep 15 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
The only way to know how puppies react to drowning, euphoria or terror, would be to get some puppies and waterboard them.
Oh be real. That would be torture and psychopathic behavior.
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Elinda wrote:
The One and Only ShadorVIII wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.


Learning that there are consequences to her actions and how to value any life, even that of abandoned puppies, will be incredibly valuable for her future.


This.

A realization that actions have repercussions is why we have laws. She broke a law. Let her get away with it, and she may figure that she can try something bigger later.

I'm not sure what law she broke, but getting death threats will certainly deter her from filming any further animal killings.



I never said the vigilantism was right, you dumb cnut. I said she should be punished by the legal system for breaking a law.

Elinda wrote:
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The only way to know how puppies react to drowning, euphoria or terror, would be to get some puppies and waterboard them.
Oh be real. That would be torture and psychopathic behavior.


So, since waterboarding is basically a simulation of drowning, you admit that drowning the puppies was psychopathic behavior, right.
#93 Sep 15 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only ShadorVIII wrote:
Elinda wrote:
The One and Only ShadorVIII wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I do consider the future of a young girl much more important the the fate of 6 abandoned puppies.


Learning that there are consequences to her actions and how to value any life, even that of abandoned puppies, will be incredibly valuable for her future.


This.

A realization that actions have repercussions is why we have laws. She broke a law. Let her get away with it, and she may figure that she can try something bigger later.

I'm not sure what law she broke, but getting death threats will certainly deter her from filming any further animal killings.



I never said the vigilantism was right, you dumb cnut. I said she should be punished by the legal system for breaking a law.

Elinda wrote:
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The only way to know how puppies react to drowning, euphoria or terror, would be to get some puppies and waterboard them.
Oh be real. That would be torture and psychopathic behavior.


So, since waterboarding is basically a simulation of drowning, you admit that drowning the puppies was psychopathic behavior, right.
Some puppies were thrown into a river. I've not heard any stories of anyone standing by watching the puppies suffer while they flailed around in the water, nor did I hear of anyone attempting to gaze upon them with delight while they slipped beneath the surface of the water...trying, but finally failing to hold back the death gush of water down their throat. No one was trying to pry information out them either.

Anyways, dumb *****-dude (am i doin' it right?). I was being facetious - easy for the average joe to recognize.






Edited, Sep 15th 2010 8:58pm by Elinda
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I do know what psychopathy means. I am not a psychopath. I don't derive any joy from other's pain or displeasure, even an animals.


Some psychopaths are sadists, but they're not synonymous.

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#95REDACTED, Posted: Sep 15 2010 at 1:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So what you people are saying is I shouldn't post that video of my dog eating precious little kittens?
#96 Sep 15 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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I do know what psychopathy means. I am not a psychopath. I don't derive any joy from other's pain or displeasure, even an animals.


Some psychopaths are sadists, but they're not synonymous.
From what I understand, and without doing a whole ton of googling dictionary. Sadists enjoy inflicting pain. Psychopaths, now pretty much an extinct term I recall being tied tightly to empathy (the lack of it) displayed usually by committing physical savage acts and feeling no remorse for the outcome. Although, I think my psych 101 class mentioned some cases of pyschopaths that were manifested through emotional pain and torture.

Anyways, I don't kill stuff or torture stuff, nor do I enjoy watching others in pain, and I do feel bad when stuff hurts. I don't squish spiders. I swerve around chipmunks and I try...TRY...to buy meat that isn't mass produced (but it's hard sometimes).

And I still think people have gone WAY over the top about this video. I think all the outrage for these puppies is misplaced. There are SO many animals suffering SO much more severely. Yet, for the convenience of having chicken all packed in plastic sitting in a grocery store cooler 24/7, we ignore it.

I saw no indication of ****** or psychotic behavior in this girl. If killing unwanted dogs is against the law in her country, or even killing them without a license or whatever...then she broke the law. She should be held accountable. She's a minor, I imagine legally it wouldn't go so hard on her.
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So what you people are saying is I shouldn't post that video of my dog eating precious little kittens?

I believe you should post it. Then a bunch of 4chan dudes will attack you. Then you'll brag about how you'll take them all down or something.

But no matter who loses, you or 4chan, the winner will be me.
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So what you people are saying is I shouldn't post that video of my dog eating precious little kittens?
Oh do. Make sure the video includes easy-to-decipher clues about your location.
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Oh do. Make sure the video includes easy-to-decipher clues about your location.


We already know where he lives.
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Oh do. Make sure the video includes easy-to-decipher clues about your location.


We already know where he lives.
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Big V's gots an admirer. Smiley: inlove


Lol. That's what we call it here?
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