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#52 Aug 31 2010 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
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This is almost perfect logic for why a lot of ignorant Americans thought invading Iraq was a good response to the 9/11 attacks when it was completely separate


Ignorant? Taking out Saddam was the absolute best message we could send to the Muslim world. A sign that told them we don't care who you are if you mess with us we'll take you out.

You're a bigger idiot than I thought if you think the muslims were just laughing at the US while we were taking out Saddam.

By your logic we should never have declared war on Germany because after all it was just Japan that attacked us right?







#53 Aug 31 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
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This is almost perfect logic for why a lot of ignorant Americans thought invading Iraq was a good response to the 9/11 attacks when it was completely separate


Ignorant? Taking out Saddam was the absolute best message we could send to the Muslim world. A sign that told them we don't care who you are if you mess with us we'll take you out.


Our message being "We'll attack someone entirely unrelated to the attack upon us, and who was hated by the actual attackers!"

Great message :-P

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By your logic we should never have declared war on Germany because after all it was just Japan that attacked us right?


Considering they were allied, it made sense. Considering our allies were being attacked, it also made sense. Now, if we had attacked Switzerland during WWII because Japan attacked us, you might have a point. But we, uh, didn't. So... yeah, batting for 0 here again, Varus.
#54 Aug 31 2010 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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It doesn't matter if majority Muslim nations overseas demonise the modern Western culture. Two wrongs don't make a right.


It does matter when they hijack planes and murder thousands of civilians.


Orly?

You'd be comfortable hijacking a plane and murdering thousands of civilians? Perfectly acceptable because someone else did it first?

You the profile of the overwhelming majority of terrorists?

1. Illiterate
2. Dirt poor
3. Fundamentalist in their religious beliefs.


Numbers 1 and 2 help explain the combined indoctrination/propaganda and flat-out bribery process (We will pay your family $25,000) that actual terrorists usually go through.


To me that suggests that pitching in to eliminate world illiteracy, which will demonstrably also raise world incomes, will help secure a de-escalation of terrorist violence, instead of the mutual revenge going on now.
#55 Aug 31 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Lots of words

Oh, you're talking about the Muslims down the street! Yeah, those guys make a killer halal kebab.
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#56 Aug 31 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Tulip,

Forget Al Qaida Islam is the problem. Nothing you can say is going to change what they are doing to every country they control. You're mistaken in trying to seperate good muslims from bad ones. Their Koran specifically tells them to do certain things. This is what you are willingly ignoring.



The Bible also tells people to do certain things. The majority of which get ignored by modern practising Christians.
#57 Aug 31 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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The numbers do matter for your comparison. Muslims wield supreme power in other countries; powers that Jews never had. That was my rebuttal. Again, the sentiment for both of us is the same; but your comparison sucks.*

Suck you too, baby. Smiley: tongue
#58 Aug 31 2010 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Tulip,

Forget Al Qaida Islam is the problem.


This is almost perfect logic for why a lot of ignorant Americans thought invading Iraq was a good response to the 9/11 attacks when it was completely separate. Welcome to the sheeple, Varus.

This, Oh God, This.



Post faster people. Not my fault I wound up triple-posting. Smiley: mad

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 1:02pm by Aripyanfar
#59 Aug 31 2010 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
Aripya,

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You'd be comfortable hijacking a plane and murdering thousands of civilians? Perfectly acceptable because someone else did it first?


No it's muslims that do that sort of thing. How many christians do you know have supported homicide bombers?

And it is perfectly acceptable to attack your enemies on a battlefield of our choosing. Of course you don't believe any war is justifiable and similarly you don't believe islam is a threat to world peace.


A: You are illiterate; as is anyone who doesn't associate muslim terrorits with Islam.
B: We know you're dirt poor
C: And you obviously worship govn as you might a deity.






#60REDACTED, Posted: Aug 31 2010 at 11:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Aripya,
#61 Aug 31 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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How many christians do you know have supported homicide bombers?


There have been lots of fatal non-military bombings by nominal Christians. Smiley: dubious

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#62 Aug 31 2010 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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How many christians do you know have supported homicide bombers?


There have been lots of fatal non-military bombings by nominal Christians. Smiley: dubious


Yes, but since Christians have never flown planes into the WTC, it logically follows that all Muslims are terrorists.
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#63 Aug 31 2010 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know the one thing that bugs me about Varus more than anything (besides his hate mongering, propaganda spreading, racist ***** is the fact that I have yet to see him actually discuss a subject with someone. All I ever seem to get out of him is some wild accusations followed by some name calling. I have given up expecting him to discuss a topic without resorting to bending over, pulling his **** cheeks apart, and farting in our general direction.
#64 Aug 31 2010 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
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You'd be comfortable hijacking a plane and murdering thousands of civilians? Perfectly acceptable because someone else did it first?

No it's muslims that do that sort of thing. How many christians do you know have supported homicide bombers?

A great number of Christian Pro-Lifers, ironically. And the odd crazy.

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And it is perfectly acceptable to attack your enemies on a battlefield of our choosing. Of course you don't believe any war is justifiable

Actually I believe every nation has the right to DEFEND it's own borders, or the borders of its allies.

varus wrote:
and similarly you don't believe islam is a threat to world peace.

You're right, I don't believe Islam is a threat to world peace.

Varus wrote:
A: You are illiterate; as is anyone who doesn't associate muslim terrorits with Islam.
B: We know you're dirt poor
C: And you obviously worship govn as you might a deity.

/giggle, snarf
#65 Aug 31 2010 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know the one thing that bugs me about Varus more than anything (besides his hate mongering, propaganda spreading, racist ***** is the fact that I have yet to see him actually discuss a subject with someone. All I ever seem to get out of him is some wild accusations followed by some name calling. I have given up expecting him to discuss a topic without resorting to bending over, pulling his **** cheeks apart, and farting in our general direction.


It's what he does. He's not the analytical sort.

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#66 Aug 31 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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It's what he does. He's not the analytical sort.


Someday that will eventually sink into my head. /shakesfist
#67 Aug 31 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:


No it's muslims that do that sort of thing. How many christians do you know have supported homicide bombers?


Less need of it when we have missiles and drones!

On a slight derail, I was looking up suicide bombing facts and found that, contrary to popular belief, most suicide bombers are actually middle-class and educated (according to the NYtimes article on this book). I also enjoyed an article on Halo 3 making people adopt a suicide bomber mentality. It makes sense; when you can't outgun the enemy and get tired of trying, you just take them out knowing you'll die too - but at least they will be dust.
#68 Aug 31 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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I also enjoyed an article on Halo 3 making people adopt a suicide bomber mentality. It makes sense; when you can't outgun the enemy and get tired of trying, you just take them out knowing you'll die too - but at least they will be dust.

In life, there are no respawns (unless you're Hindu).
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#69 Aug 31 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
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The Bible also tells people to do certain things. The majority of which get ignored by modern practising Christians.


You're projecting. It's obvious you don't know anything about practising christians. It's also obvious you don't know anything about christianity as a religion.


Sad that you have to go to such lengths to attack christians in a transparent attempt to compare them to muslims.


Hmm... one year of University Bible studies and Archeology (Ancient, Middle Eastern) during which I compulsorily read the whole Bible, along with learning to draw comparisons between (admittedly translated into English) Quumram texts, old long known apocrypha and The Bible. Extensive lectures on the same, as well as exercises in interpreting ancient, Old and New Testament era texts for a modern audience, and interpreting incomplete texts, with the help of other existing evidence.

Being one of the faculty, even though one of the lowly undergrads, asked to proof-read and critique the reasoning of a paper by one of my lecturers that used some Qumran texts to provide added context to some of the New Testament passages in the Bible, that put forth a surprising but amazingly cogent argument that the apostle Paul was a spy for the Romans, and was used as an agent to help integrate the Jewish people into the Roman Empire. Being part of the circle of people contacted by the Vatican over said controversial paper. Participating in being disturbed by being contacted by the Vatican over this paper, since none of us contacted them.

One semester on Islamic studies. No other direct studies of Christianity, except for three years on an Art major (including architecture) that largely covered reading Christian art and architecture.

Fourth year on Middle-ages and Medieval Christian philosophers.

I'm sorry. I can't be a practising Christian, I know too much about its creation and history.

St Augustine was a ******.

And I'm such a ****** for alowing Varus to bait me.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 2:00pm by Aripyanfar
#70 Aug 31 2010 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
By your logic we should never have declared war on Germany because after all it was just Japan that attacked us right?

There were white people at stake!
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#71 Aug 31 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
Let's not let our hatred of the far right blind us to the fact that Muslims are still religious and thus to be relentlessly belittled and mocked.
#72REDACTED, Posted: Aug 31 2010 at 11:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Aripya,
#73 Aug 31 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
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one year of University Bible studies


lmao...


My credentials are 35yrs in southern baptist churches...


What a surprise a liberal university using it's undergrads to disprove the bible; I'm shocked I tell you SHOCKED!


Wait, I'm confused, are you saying that Christians don't follow the Bible, but Muslims do follow the Koran, so hate the Muslims?

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 1:57pm by LockeColeMA
#74 Aug 31 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Aripya,

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one year of University Bible studies


lmao...


My credentials are 35yrs in southern baptist churches...


What a surprise a liberal university using it's undergrads to disprove the bible; I'm shocked I tell you SHOCKED!

As a living word/part of God, I think you're a disappointment to much of the All.

PS the course I did is the preferred course for undergrads to take before taking Theology and entering churches in an official hierarchical role in Australia. Because it taught critical thinking and philosophy as well as metaphysics and religious history.

As the only course to make the students take 3 majors all covering 7000 years of Western history of different cultural aspects, it is the single most conservative University in Australia.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 2:16pm by Aripyanfar
#75 Aug 31 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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My credentials are 35yrs in southern baptist churches.

That teaches you how to be a Southern Baptist, I suppose. A group always respected as a light of rational thought and tolerance.
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