Demea wrote:
Aripyanfar wrote:
I'm sick of the baddies turning out to be Muslims in the majority of action films the past two decades, after the end of the Cold War, during which all the baddies turned out to be Russian. I'm sick of Vox Pops on Australian, American and European streets saying they don't think having a "mosque" built in their locality is appropriate. I'm sick of women and girls in head-scarves being yelled at and spat on. I'm sick of the scapegoating of an entire religion of people.
I'm sick of stories about girls having their clitorises mutilated, women being stoned to death for misdemeanors, sectarian violence that ends up killing American troops, blatant Holocaust denial, and clergy-state support of terrorist attacks against Israel.
Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:03am by Demea Yes, those facts make me sick too. But you know what? The Muslims down your street aren't likely to have participated in any of that.
Female Genital Mutilation is strictly forbidden in Australia, and to show immigrant communities that we're serious about that, guardians and complicit adults who have sent their daughters overseas to have it done have been arrested and jailed and their children's guardianship reassigned. Jews and Christians who come from the Middle East and North Africa ALSO perform FGM on their daughters, and have to be broken of the same idea that an intact daughter is an unmarriagable woman.
Just like waves of Greek, Italian, Eastern European, Chinese and South-East Asian migrants have had to be broken of the idea that their daughters can't leave home on their own, must have strict curfews until they are married, can't have tertiary educations, can't choose whom they marry themselves.
You can bet your **** that most Muslims in a Western countries are pleased as punch that they don't live under Sharia law. Wars have been fought and are being fought overseas between the Muslims who want Sharia, and the Muslims who don't want Sharia.
I'm sorry American troops are being killed overseas. So are Australian and European troops. We all are the ones who've decided we want to police the world, position ourselves in foreign nations as Peak Oil looms, and respond to guerilla attacks on our own territory with large scale classical warfare.
The most egregious blatant Holocaust deniers in Australia have come from Caucasians, and Caucasian historians who want visas to give lecture tours here about how it all didn't happen. If Muslims are going around complaining about the non-existent Holocaust of Jews, homosexuals, Gypsies, and the disabled etc by the **** regime, then they haven't had a noticeable run in the public media here.
The state of Israel was a cluster-f*ck from the start, perpetuated on the Middle East by a guilt-stricken West (Because the majority of people in Western nations used to be prejudiced against Jews). There are too many wrongs that have happened in the Middle East for anyone to truly be allowed to keep score. Revenge upon revenge, bitterness upon bitterness, only keeps the misery perpetuating. The only people living truly free inside there are the people who have let go, and held out their hands to each other.
In short, Caucasian Westerners through the luck of history liberalised and modernised culturally first. Other cultures are modernising in turn, and have valuable gifts to keep and not throw out as they do so. Our modernisation happened unevenly over time, and very recently. We have no room to through stones against an
entire other culture, just because
some of it, and
some of its people, are downright bad/awful/evil.
If you just take Arabia, the world would be grossly poorer without its Islamic architecture, its cooking, clothing, dancing, poetry, music, tapestry, ship, tiling and market design.
Country and Western clothing with it's curlicues of brocade appliqué and spangles, and southern US architecture, with among other things it's decorative metalwork and grills, descends directly from Spanish Colonial design of the 17th and 18th centuries, which descends from the designs of the Moorish colonisers of Spain from the 700s to the 1400s, which descends from the designs brought in from the Arab Islamic conquest of Northern Africa from 670 AD.