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#1 Aug 31 2010 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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I hope you noticed that.

Actually I'm certain that there are many regulars here who have noticed that.

But there are a depressing fuckton of people in Australia, America, and elsewhere who haven't noticed that.

They can't see the historic parallels at all.
#2 Aug 31 2010 at 6:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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I find this a gross over-exaggeration that ignores many MANY differences between the two religions/cultures.

I get your point, but it's inaccurate enough to border on irrelevance.
#3 Aug 31 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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Aripyanfar wrote:
I hope you noticed that.

Actually I'm certain that there are many regulars here who have noticed that.

But there are a depressing fuckton of people in Australia, America, and elsewhere who haven't noticed that.

They can't see the historic parallels at all.
If the parallel lines are at even in indiscernible angle to one another, eventually, they'll cross.

I think you'd be making too many false conclusions and ignoring too many issues by declaring the Muslims the new Jews.
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Semites have always been good scapegoats.

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#5 Aug 31 2010 at 6:24 AM Rating: Good
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...also if Muslims are the 'new' Jews are the Israeli the new *****?

Just wondering.
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#6 Aug 31 2010 at 6:51 AM Rating: Excellent
I think Jews are the new Jews and honestly, Muslims are brown. I mean, your theory doesn't even pass the sight test.
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I think Jews are the new Jews and honestly, Muslims are brown. I mean, your theory doesn't even pass the sight test.
What about if they sewed yellow stars to their lapels?
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...also if Muslims are the 'new' Jews are the Israeli the new *****?

Just wondering.

No. Conservatives are.
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Muslim in the new Jew

Well, shit. There goes Hollywood.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 8:10am by Jophiel
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#10 Aug 31 2010 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
I think Jews are the new Jews and honestly, Muslims are brown. I mean, your theory doesn't even pass the sight test.


I dunno. You put an Israeli next to a Palestinian and I can't tell the difference.
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#11 Aug 31 2010 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
I think Jews are the new Jews and honestly, Muslims are brown. I mean, your theory doesn't even pass the sight test.


I dunno. You put an Israeli next to a Palestinian and I can't tell the difference.


The Israeli is circumcised. Unless the folks being compared are women, in which case the Palestinian is.

See? Yet another major difference between Jews and Muzzies.
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Elinda wrote:
...also if Muslims are the 'new' Jews are the Israeli the new *****?

Just wondering.

No. Conservatives Republicans are.

FTFY Smiley: glare
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#13 Aug 31 2010 at 8:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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I find this a gross over-exaggeration that ignores many MANY differences between the two religions/cultures.

I get your point, but it's inaccurate enough to border on irrelevance.

There need not be one single commonality between the two cultures. What is relevant is that once again a numerously dominant culture in a set of countries has allowed the bad behaviour of a minority of individuals within a minority culture to erroneously form their idea of individuals in that entire minority culture.

ZOMG, bad Muslims blow **** up and shoot people!

ZOMG, bad White Anglo-Saxon Protestants blow **** up and shoot people! Aussies and Australians don't presume therefore that all WASPs are medieval terrorist fodder.

I'm sick of the baddies turning out to be Muslims in the majority of action films the past two decades, after the end of the Cold War, during which all the baddies turned out to be Russian. I'm sick of Vox Pops on Australian, American and European streets saying they don't think having a "mosque" built in their locality is appropriate. I'm sick of women and girls in head-scarves being yelled at and spat on. I'm sick of the scapegoating of an entire religion of people.
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I'm sick of the baddies turning out to be Muslims in the majority of action films the past two decades, after the end of the Cold War, during which all the baddies turned out to be Russian. I'm sick of Vox Pops on Australian, American and European streets saying they don't think having a "mosque" built in their locality is appropriate. I'm sick of women and girls in head-scarves being yelled at and spat on. I'm sick of the scapegoating of an entire religion of people.

I'm sick of stories about girls having their clitorises mutilated, women being stoned to death for misdemeanors, sectarian violence that ends up killing American troops, blatant Holocaust denial, and clergy-state support of terrorist attacks against Israel.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:03am by Demea
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Aripyanfar wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
I find this a gross over-exaggeration that ignores many MANY differences between the two religions/cultures.

I get your point, but it's inaccurate enough to border on irrelevance.

There need not be one single commonality between the two cultures. What is relevant is that once again a numerously dominant culture in a set of countries has allowed the bad behaviour of a minority of individuals within a minority culture to erroneously form their idea of individuals in that entire minority culture.

ZOMG, bad Muslims blow sh*t up and shoot people!

ZOMG, bad White Anglo-Saxon Protestants blow sh*t up and shoot people! Aussies and Australians don't presume therefore that all WASPs are medieval terrorist fodder.

I'm sick of the baddies turning out to be Muslims in the majority of action films the past two decades, after the end of the Cold War, during which all the baddies turned out to be Russian. I'm sick of Vox Pops on Australian, American and European streets saying they don't think having a "mosque" built in their locality is appropriate. I'm sick of women and girls in head-scarves being yelled at and spat on. I'm sick of the scapegoating of an entire religion of people.


And as said, I get your point and intuited most of this from the OP. But there are huge differences between the two groups; the most giant one, in my mind, being that while there are 13-14 million Jews in the world (.02% of the population), there are likely over 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world (20% of the world population). In addition, while we have one predominantly Jewish country in the world (Israel), we have 47 countries where Islam is the predominant religion.

While Muslims may be a minority in European and North American countries, they are very sizable minorities, if not the majority in many countries in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. Judaism never had that kind of size or numbers.

All figures are from wikipedia.
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I'm sick of women and girls in head-scarves being yelled at and spat on. I'm sick of the scapegoating of an entire religion of people.


My father, who I have always viewed as being reasonable and tolerant, recently mentioned something to me the other day. He believes that it should be illegal for women to wear a burka here in the US. After a few seconds of silence I asked why he feels that way and what he said made me quite upset. His reasoning behind it is, and I quote, "because the women can hide bombs under there and no one would know". It is extremely disgusting how quickly irrational fear and blatant religious bigotry spreads among the ignorant.

I have heard stories of women getting verbally abused at some of the stores around here and it makes me wish that I was around when it happened. Although on the other hand, I really don't want to go to jail for beating the ever loving hell out of some racist prick because he can't pull his head out of his **** for one moment and keep his thoughts to himself.
#17 Aug 31 2010 at 9:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can see what you're saying, but like locke said, the sheer size of the group really completely transforms the issue into something completely different.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
I'm sick of the baddies turning out to be Muslims in the majority of action films the past two decades

Have they been? Is this a function of the modern generic film villain being either Eastern European or from some imaginary ex-Soviet central Asian breakaway nation like Pluztoniumstan (which I guess would make them Muslim)?
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I think Jews are the new Jews and honestly, Muslims are brown. I mean, your theory doesn't even pass the sight test.


I dunno. You put an Israeli next to a Palestinian and I can't tell the difference.


The Israeli is circumcised. Unless the folks being compared are women, in which case the Palestinian is.

See? Yet another major difference between Jews and Muzzies.


So I guess the next step is to add a circumcision detector to missiles...
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#20 Aug 31 2010 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm sick of stories about girls having their clitorises mutilated


I realize you're just trolling, but this is not a religious thing. It's a cultural thing. It is not part of Islam.

For that matter, no manner of dress is specified in Islam for either men or women. They're urged to be modest, that's all.



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#21 Aug 31 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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For that matter, no manner of dress is specified in Islam for either men or women. They're urged to be modest, that's all.


This. Most of the Muslim ladies I've met over the years wore jeans, long sleeved T-shirts, and a matching scarf for every day, and lovely custom sewn pant suits for formal occasions. One had a pretty nose ring. Another lived with the man who became her husband ahead of time against her family's wishes because, as she put it, "I'm an American, dammit. I needed to know I could stand being in the same house with him before I committed."

I don't think burqas should be outlawed in the US. Instead, Muslim American women who have been here a while need to explain to them that it's not necessary to hide yourself here - our definition of modest dress is merely "don't look like a street hooker."
#22 Aug 31 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I realize you're just trolling, but this is not a religious thing. It's a cultural thing. It is not part of Islam.

For that matter, no manner of dress is specified in Islam for either men or women. They're urged to be modest, that's all.


If one was so inclined, one could also point out that most Muslim countries do not stone women to death. That sectarian violence killing US troops raises the question of what US troops are doing there. That holocaust denial is not Muslim specific, and that neither is clergy-state support of the destruction of a people.

If one were so inclined.
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I realize you're just trolling, but this is not a religious thing. It's a cultural thing. It is not part of Islam.

For that matter, no manner of dress is specified in Islam for either men or women. They're urged to be modest, that's all.
On the bright side, circumcision rates in the US are dropping fast.
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#24 Aug 31 2010 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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You COULD point out that ~1250 women are killed by their husbands or lovers in the U.S. every year; but that would be such a downer.

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Samira wrote:
I realize you're just trolling...

It's no fun when you come right out with it. Smiley: mad
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