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Here is the video and the transcript. Comb away.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295231-1&showFullAbstract=1

Edit: I may be retarded, or just unused to C-SPAN, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to see more than a stub for the transcript.

Edited, Sep 1st 2010 4:08pm by LockeColeMA

woooo team party!

but srsly:

The perpetuation of "eye for an eye" policies blaming/punishing one ethnicity or giving benefits to another based on the actions of individuals that were dead long before the current generations were even born will never lead to anything close to racial equity. The only way to do so is through the promotion and protection of "race blind" policies and processes. Also, a racist is "anyone with the prejudiced belief that one race is superior to another" regardless of which race they belong to, or whether they are on the side they feel is superior. The belief that certain ethnicity's are more "immune" to racism is itself incredibly racist.

that being said, back on topic:



Why the hell is an egocentric, hypocritical shock jocky with no real political experience, no substantial education, a twisted view of american history, and a tenuous (at best) grasp of reality considered socially/politically relevant?

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 12:28am by shintasama

I still think you're wrong for the same reasons as before.

I don't get what your line of thinking is...do you think that any black hatred/contempt for whites based on their race is justified due to generalized inequalities?

By extension of this "logic", a woman can be prejudiced against men, but it's not sexism then.

I don't think any sort of violence is justified, but I think that any contempt African Americans have towards whites because of the many inequalities that exist to this day isn't "racism" or "reverse-racism". Instead, it's part of the process of African Americans trying to overcome racism itself.



Sorta. I'm saying that it isn't prejudice or racism, in part, because of that lack of power. Resistance to white privilege & power, which whites tend to see as "reverse-racism", isn't racism at all but in actuality it's an attempt at liberation from racism.



Resistance to gender inequality is not prejudice. In this scenario the men have the power & a woman's resentment of it isn't sexism. Like the above example, it's part of the attempt at liberation from sexism.

However, if the fictional Amazon society existed, they would be sexists within that society for their treatment of the male minority.

White racism came first, folks. Until white racism, white privilege, & white power are "overcome" the oppressed African Americans of this country aren't being racist for their resistance to those things.

See, this is why people have a hard time with what you're saying, since ESKE didn't say that.

Before I comment on the thread I am going to point out that I am a liberal. Not a modern one particularly but liberal.
Ok It is fascinating to me that the person pointing out that rally numbers are always exaggerated by the promoters, and who happens to be a conservative, is rated to subdefault and the people he points this out to are rated to excellent in what seems to be a pretty automatic response.
This bothers me because it smacks of trying to shut one side up and encouraging the other. Isnt that what the underlying complaint about the exaggerations is anyway? That we are not hearing the true version? How can we even have a chance of guessing at what is really true if we dont have an open discussion of both sides of the situation? Becks side is entitles to their view of the numbers and the other side is entitled to theirs and if either have stats to support their view then bring them on!
I want to hear them both. It is annoying to have one side sub defaulted because the majority of the viewers dont like his view. If you only want one side then only read one side. It makes you uneducated but that is your choice for you. Oh and it really helps to actually read what is said not what you read into what is said.

Karma has nothing to do with shutting people up in the asylum either. You don't have the ability to give enough ratedowns to where a post is not viewable if you really want to see it. At most it'll just collapse. But yeah, asylum.

Also, even if half of gbaji's posts are deleted, there are still enough words in the remaining posts to make up for it.

Hi, you must be new. Not only that, you missed the page long discussion on how gbaji was trying to spin the numbers issue by:
1. Making it an issue in the first place. He took offense to my comment "I find it interesting that..." and made it completely political by going on yet another long-winded tirade about how liberals are actually to blame and everyone but him ("I don't care about this, but let me made a dozen posts about it") is biased.
2. Claiming both sides do it, so all estimates are equally fallible in this case (which we showed was not true).
3. Then claiming that CBS, a media outlet, made the estimate not a company. Which we then pointed out was wrong.
4. Fell back on inventing thoughts for me because he failed to have a point.
5. And at last went back to the old shtick that this is the liberal media attempting to discount a conservative event. No bias there, obviously.

The funny thing being that all of his contentions sprang from my simple observation by reading the article from CNN referenced by the OP, which showed 5 different estimates under the subset of "How big was the event?", that the numbers varying wildly. There was no issue until he made one of it!

Also, people get rated down for all kinds of reasons. gbaji's karma will never drop, he's established here. Varus gets rebooted to a new name and a 3.0 karma scale every once in a while when he makes a silly comment like how he hopes NY or Chicago get blown up by terrorists.

Heh, that reminds me of one of my first posts here. I think I was trying to criticize folk for cursing gbaji out, while simultaneously praising him for using polite language.

I look back at some of those old posts and just go

I did the exact same thing. It took me a long time to realize that he's full of crap, never apologizes or admits he's wrong, and ends 90% of all his posts with an ellipses...

There are many conservative posters here that aren't automatically rated into oblivion (it's really only a select couple), and you don't notice it because they aren't forcefully obtuse.

I always thought that any LDS members would be embarrassed at their religious underwear.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 12:47pm by bsphil