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#52 Aug 30 2010 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
(specifically Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow)

You're confusing Anderson Cooper for Keith Olbermann. Or vice versa. Or something. Anyway, you've got the wrong guy.


Huh? Nope. It was Anderson Cooper. He was one of the first to make a joke about it.

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The liberal media, to use a convenient tag, went after the protesters with glee. Take Anderson Cooper, the acclaimed anchorman for CNN. He was interviewing David Gergen, the political pundit. And Gergen was saying that, after two very bad elections, conservatives and Republicans were “searching for their voice.” Cooper responded, “It’s hard to talk when you’re teabagging.” He said this with a smirk.



The point is that all of this apparently started with one protester with one sign. That one sign is the *only* example of the phrase (and not as a label either) being used by a member of the Tea Party prior to the media taking off with it and making that the label. No member of the Tea Party labeled themselves this way until well after this happened, and then it was either as a joke, or because they didn't know what the phrase meant, but had heard supposedly mainstream media outlets use it.


Can we please stop pretending that it was dumb conservatives who called themselves this? The liberal pundits created it, applied the label, and then repeated it over and over and over and over and over until everyone else started using it. Then they sat back and laughed about it. The punchline is that conservatives didn't know any better when they chose that name for themselves, but the reality is that the same people handing out the punchline wrote the joke.

Edited, Aug 30th 2010 8:43pm by gbaji
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#53 Aug 31 2010 at 3:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.



Gbaji wrote:
Can we please stop pretending that it was dumb conservatives who called themselves this?


We don't have to pretend as, according to your article, it is a fact. Smiley: schooled
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#54 Aug 31 2010 at 6:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Huh? Nope. It was Anderson Cooper.

My mistake then. I had forgotten about that in the wake of Olbermann's 24/7 complaining.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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#56 Aug 31 2010 at 8:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:

It's all the liberals have. They can't stand on policy so anyone who opposes them must be a racist bigot.


To be fair, you are a racist bigot. To apply it to you in this case would be entirely correct.
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#58 Aug 31 2010 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
He's got you there.
#59 Aug 31 2010 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
Am I missing some backstory here?
#60 Aug 31 2010 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Barkingturtle wrote:
He's got you there.


Yup, sure can't beat those accusations! Smiley: lol
#61 Aug 31 2010 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk the Pest wrote:
Am I missing some backstory here?


That's actually a pretty good question. The only thing I can think of coming remotely close is
1. A liar, everyone lies,
2. A thief, because I believe in taxation
3. A rapist, because I wrote a topic many months ago about a friend of mine claiming to be raped but not willing to go to the police. Granted, not raped by me (and I did go to the police, where I was told they can't do anything without her coming in and filing a complaint), but she was an ex-girlfriend of mine. Not sure how he gets I'm a rapist out of it, but hey, that's Varus :-P

Edit: Wait, isn't it Varus who said he goes around picking up college co-eds by getting them drunk enough on wine coolers to put out? Huh. Hard to get consent when intoxicated*

*Note, not actually sure on the court validity of this. I remember in college being told that drunken sex can be considered rape, but I think they were trying to scare us straight.

Edited, Aug 31st 2010 10:31am by LockeColeMA
#62 Aug 31 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk the Pest wrote:
Am I missing some backstory here?


That's actually a pretty good question. The only thing I can think of coming remotely close is
1. A liar, everyone lies,
2. A thief, because I believe in taxation
3. A rapist, because I wrote a topic many months ago about a friend of mine claiming to be raped but not willing to go to the police. Granted, not raped by me (and I did go to the police, where I was told they can't do anything without her coming in and filing a complaint), but she was an ex-girlfriend of mine. Not sure how he gets I'm a rapist out of it, but hey, that's Varus :-P


I think you're over-estimating him, honestly.
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varusword75 wrote:
Why read, or research, anything when they have so many radicals willing to tell them what to think?

Says the guy who traveled hundreds of miles for a Glenn Beck rally.
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#64 Aug 31 2010 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Yup, sure can't beat those accusations! Smiley: lol

You'd better hope so or you're going TO JAIL!
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#65 Aug 31 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Yup, sure can't beat those accusations! Smiley: lol

You'd better hope so or you're going TO JAIL!


It's cool. I like black people, and I think they'd LOVE me in jail!
#66 Aug 31 2010 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Yup, sure can't beat those accusations! Smiley: lol

You'd better hope so or you're going TO JAIL!


I think you're assuming marks were left, when in fact we have no evidence of any marks.
#67 Aug 31 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Kavekk the Pest wrote:
Am I missing some backstory here?


That's actually a pretty good question. The only thing I can think of coming remotely close is
1. A liar, everyone lies,
2. A thief, because I believe in taxation
3. A rapist, because I wrote a topic many months ago about a friend of mine claiming to be raped but not willing to go to the police. Granted, not raped by me (and I did go to the police, where I was told they can't do anything without her coming in and filing a complaint), but she was an ex-girlfriend of mine. Not sure how he gets I'm a rapist out of it, but hey, that's Varus :-P


I think you're over-estimating him, honestly.


To be fair, it's hard to underestimate him.

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#68 Aug 31 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Gbaji's article wrote:
The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.



Gbaji wrote:
Can we please stop pretending that it was dumb conservatives who called themselves this?


We don't have to pretend as, according to your article, it is a fact. Smiley: schooled


The organization as a whole did not call themselves "teabaggers". That is a fact. One or two individuals made signs which could be interpreted as such, and so the liberal media did so. But they were the ones who labeled the entire group "teabaggers". And they did so specifically to dismiss their positions, presumably because it's easier to respond to them with invented jokes than to actually address the very real issues they bring up.
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#69 Aug 31 2010 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
presumably because it's easier to respond to them with invented jokes

Is there another kind of joke? Jokes that form naturally in coral reefs or something?
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#70 Aug 31 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Omegavegeta wrote:
Gbaji's article wrote:
The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office. One of the exhortations was “Tea Bag the Fools in D.C.” A protester was spotted with a sign saying, “Tea Bag the Liberal Dems Before They Tea Bag You.” So, conservatives started it: started with this terminology. But others ran with it and ran with it.



Gbaji wrote:
Can we please stop pretending that it was dumb conservatives who called themselves this?


We don't have to pretend as, according to your article, it is a fact. Smiley: schooled


The organization as a whole did not call themselves "teabaggers". That is a fact. One or two individuals made signs which could be interpreted as such, and so the liberal media did so. But they were the ones who labeled the entire group "teabaggers". And they did so specifically to dismiss their positions, presumably because it's easier to respond to them with invented jokes than to actually address the very real issues they bring up.


So... what you're saying is that dumb conservatives called themselves that?
#71 Aug 31 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
presumably because it's easier to respond to them with invented jokes

Is there another kind of joke? Jokes that form naturally in coral reefs or something?


Organic jokes are for tree-huggers.

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#73 Aug 31 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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No?

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#74 Aug 31 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Locked,

You're the liberal. And havn't the liberals been the ones telling us every sex act is rape and that regardless of consent the act is a violent one where the woman is violated while being penetrated?
Whoa...too much of a glimpse there into your lil fantasy world V.
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#75 Aug 31 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Locked,

You're the liberal. And havn't the liberals been the ones telling us every sex act is rape and that regardless of consent the act is a violent one where the woman is violated while being penetrated?


The hell??
#76 Aug 31 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
Smiley: laugh

There's some deep seated issues right thar.
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