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#27 Aug 27 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji, save your breath. I don't read your posts. They're too long.


It's either that or it's just because you're too stupid. (I'm leaning towards too stupid)


You got someone else to write this for you, didn't you?
#28 Aug 27 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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That wasn't too long compared to other threads where the amount of paragraphs were closing in on spam.
#29 Aug 27 2010 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji, save your breath. I don't read your posts. They're too long.


Well that's consistent at least, since you didn't read the sources for the Salon story either. Maybe you should read more before spouting off an opinion? Just a thought.

EDIT: And wtf? Why link an article if you're unwilling to read anyone's response to it?

Edited, Aug 27th 2010 7:47pm by gbaji
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#30 Aug 27 2010 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
Because I was deleting the stuff you quoted in your first reply as you wrote it, therefore I dismissed everything besides "You don't provide evidence." I at least linked an article that had a good chunk of citations in it to support the position that Teabaggers are racist. You kept going on and on about how that had nothing to do with the topic of discussion at hand, which I already agreed to and edited the OP hours ago to fix it.

Therefore, anything said about that is no longer relevant, and no longer worth wasting my time. Or yours, for that matter, but you seem to really love wasting time here, so don't let me stop you.
#31 Aug 28 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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While the Tea Party is slightly older than the general public, and slightly more white, and slightly more male, it's not significantly so. 2/3rds of Americans are white. 50% are male. And I'm not sure what percentage of politically active people are 55 or older, but 40% doesn't seem that far outside the mainstream to me. Far from being some extreme subset of society, the Tea Party is far far more broadly representative of the voting public than is generally acknowledged


Not really. Certainly not in the age demographics. That said, the "tea party" is much more a marketing construct than a political movement. **** Army, who's a fairly smart guy, thought of a way to try to broaden the base of the GOP who were rightfully embarrassed to associated with decades of abject policy failures. Now Biggiton Moron Homophope can tell his friends he believes in the ideas of the "tea party movement" without having to self identify as a "Republican" and face ridicule. Conceptually, this is, of course what giant cowards have done for years. O'Rielley claims to be an independent, thousands of pseudo intellectual morons not bright enough to start laughing out loud twenty pages into anything Ayn Rand wrote claim to he independent "Libertarians", etc. I'm sure it happens on the left as well. There's no shortage of self delusion in the world, and the media obviously encourages this as controversy sells. If the marketing of politics to sell twinkles and hand cream was removed from political reporting, it'd be a clearer, if far more boring dialogue during elections. "Candidate xyz is expected to do well among Ignorant Voters. As a closeted gay, he is appealing to older white woman as a safe fantasy alternative to their unsatisfying married sex lives."

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#32 Aug 28 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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thousands of pseudo intellectual morons not bright enough to start laughing out loud twenty pages into anything Ayn Rand wrote claim to be independent "Libertarians"
I read one book of hers, and I want the time spent reading it back in the form of an extra six-hour nap.
#33Almalieque, Posted: Aug 28 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ???
#34 Aug 28 2010 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Interestingly enough, the principal of the school is African American.
Black people can be stupid, too.

Alma.


That's below the belt.


Hi, you must be new here.

Now go ramble on somewhere about something being fair, equal, etc, no one gives a rat's ***.


???

I would explain how you're an idiot, but that would just probably end up in pages of you not understanding logic, due to your inferior comprehension skills. So, I'm just going to save us all some time and just simply say "you're an idiot". Hopefully, you can at least grasp that concept.


You're absolutely right. Thank you for pointing this out to me.
#35Almalieque, Posted: Aug 28 2010 at 10:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're welcome
#36 Aug 30 2010 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

While the Tea Party is slightly older than the general public, and slightly more white, and slightly more male, it's not significantly so. 2/3rds of Americans are white. 50% are male. And I'm not sure what percentage of politically active people are 55 or older, but 40% doesn't seem that far outside the mainstream to me. Far from being some extreme subset of society, the Tea Party is far far more broadly representative of the voting public than is generally acknowledged


Not really. Certainly not in the age demographics. That said, the "tea party" is much more a marketing construct than a political movement. **** Army, who's a fairly smart guy, thought of a way to try to broaden the base of the GOP who were rightfully embarrassed to associated with decades of abject policy failures. Now Biggiton Moron Homophope can tell his friends he believes in the ideas of the "tea party movement" without having to self identify as a "Republican" and face ridicule. Conceptually, this is, of course what giant cowards have done for years. O'Rielley claims to be an independent, thousands of pseudo intellectual morons not bright enough to start laughing out loud twenty pages into anything Ayn Rand wrote claim to he independent "Libertarians", etc. I'm sure it happens on the left as well. There's no shortage of self delusion in the world, and the media obviously encourages this as controversy sells. If the marketing of politics to sell twinkles and hand cream was removed from political reporting, it'd be a clearer, if far more boring dialogue during elections. "Candidate xyz is expected to do well among Ignorant Voters. As a closeted gay, he is appealing to older white woman as a safe fantasy alternative to their unsatisfying married sex lives."



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#37 Aug 30 2010 at 9:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think a Homophope must be a closeted gay who is nervous and excited.

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#38 Aug 30 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Guenny wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:

While the Tea Party is slightly older than the general public, and slightly more white, and slightly more male, it's not significantly so. 2/3rds of Americans are white. 50% are male. And I'm not sure what percentage of politically active people are 55 or older, but 40% doesn't seem that far outside the mainstream to me. Far from being some extreme subset of society, the Tea Party is far far more broadly representative of the voting public than is generally acknowledged


Not really. Certainly not in the age demographics. That said, the "tea party" is much more a marketing construct than a political movement. **** Army, who's a fairly smart guy, thought of a way to try to broaden the base of the GOP who were rightfully embarrassed to associated with decades of abject policy failures. Now Biggiton Moron Homophope can tell his friends he believes in the ideas of the "tea party movement" without having to self identify as a "Republican" and face ridicule. Conceptually, this is, of course what giant cowards have done for years. O'Rielley claims to be an independent, thousands of pseudo intellectual morons not bright enough to start laughing out loud twenty pages into anything Ayn Rand wrote claim to he independent "Libertarians", etc. I'm sure it happens on the left as well. There's no shortage of self delusion in the world, and the media obviously encourages this as controversy sells. If the marketing of politics to sell twinkles and hand cream was removed from political reporting, it'd be a clearer, if far more boring dialogue during elections. "Candidate xyz is expected to do well among Ignorant Voters. As a closeted gay, he is appealing to older white woman as a safe fantasy alternative to their unsatisfying married sex lives."



I want what Smash smokes.
I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)
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#39 Aug 30 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


I thought that was what he said. Smiley: lol
#40 Aug 30 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


I thought that was what he said. Smiley: lol


Yeah, I think Elinda is smoking something...
#41 Aug 30 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


I thought that was what he said. Smiley: lol


Yeah, I think Elinda is smoking something...


Read: ******* insane.
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#42 Aug 30 2010 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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BrownDuck wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


I thought that was what he said. Smiley: lol


Yeah, I think Elinda is smoking something...
No, I'm not. I was responding to Smash.
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#43 Aug 30 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
Elinda wrote:
BrownDuck wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


I thought that was what he said. Smiley: lol


Yeah, I think Elinda is smoking something...
No, I'm not. I was responding to Smash.


And your interpretation was exactly the same as his, not "the other way around" as you identified...
#44 Aug 30 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I was under the impression it was the other way around. The R's didn't want to be associated with the wing-nuts so they craftily gathered them all together under the grouping tea-baggers (who, in their right mind, would make their own movement and call it tea-bagging???)


Um... Because they didn't call it that? Even if you didn't know that the label was created by a smallish number of liberal commentators in order to denigrate the Tea Party movement and was then picked up (amid much snickering) by the major news networks), you were halfway through the Occam's Razor bit on your own. Of course they wouldn't!

Regardless of how and why, the reality is that the platform and ideas of the Tea Party has resonated with a large number of people. And it's not about racism or bigotry, no matter how desperately the left wants those things to be associated with them. The central theme of the Tea Party is fiscal responsibility. Small government. Smaller taxes. It's not rocket science.

The problem is that somewhere along the line, the left associated big government with civil rights. Thus, many people who've accepted that association simply automatically condemn any opposition to big government as a violation of civil rights. Think about how often conservatives are called bigots, not because they did anything to hurt someone based on some minority group, but purely because they oppose some spending program or benefit aimed at a minority group. It happens so often that I suspect most people don't even notice when they make the switch mentally.


The OP is a great example. A clearly racist act is just assumed to be associated with conservatives. Why? Not because conservative principles have a darn thing to do with bigotry, but because conservative principles oppose big government programs.
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#45 Aug 30 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even if you didn't know that the label was created by a smallish number of liberal commentators in order to denigrate the Tea Party movement and was then picked up (amid much snickering) by the major news networks), you were halfway through the Occam's Razor bit on your own. Of course they wouldn't!


You've said this before and Joph found a link showing that a TP member did in fact refer to them that way. Repetition doesn't make you right.

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#46 Aug 30 2010 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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Even if you didn't know that the label was created by a smallish number of liberal commentators in order to denigrate the Tea Party movement and was then picked up (amid much snickering) by the major news networks), you were halfway through the Occam's Razor bit on your own. Of course they wouldn't!


You've said this before and Joph found a link showing that a TP member did in fact refer to them that way. Repetition doesn't make you right.


Helps to convince himself he is, though, and that's what he's all about.
#47 Aug 30 2010 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
I think my favorite was "Tea-bag Obama before he tea-bags you!"

All I could think was that little old lady's grandson was a Counterstrike player, and he made that sign for her.
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Even if you didn't know that the label was created by a smallish number of liberal commentators in order to denigrate the Tea Party movement and was then picked up (amid much snickering) by the major news networks), you were halfway through the Occam's Razor bit on your own. Of course they wouldn't!


You've said this before and Joph found a link showing that a TP member did in fact refer to them that way. Repetition doesn't make you right.



It doesn't make Joph right either. What does make me right is a timeline of the events. The movement was called the Tea Party. They had a tax day event in which the proposed that people send tea bags to Washington. Someone made a joke sign saying something like "Tea bag them before they Tea bag us". Whether or not the sexual connotation of the joke was apparent to the person who wrote it or not is irrelevant. The liberal media (specifically Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow) picked that up and began calling them "teabaggers", and that term got picked up by the mainstream media as well.

The Tea Party never called themselves teabaggers. Once again though, we have the left finding some small example to make a joke out of and then extending a label to an entire group of people. But I guess when you don't have any actual principles to base your positions on, you have to do everything you can to denigrate those who do.
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I think my favorite was "Tea-bag Obama before he tea-bags you!"

All I could think was that little old lady's grandson was a Counterstrike player, and he made that sign for her.


Which still makes that kind of a weak basis upon which to label an entire movement, don't you think?
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#50 Aug 30 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Lol, it's like a little town living in a bubble since the 60's. Smiley: boozing

Hell, even rural Idaho schools can elect a Hispanic president.
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(specifically Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow)

You're confusing Anderson Cooper for Keith Olbermann. Or vice versa. Or something. Anyway, you've got the wrong guy.
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