Homosexuals in the MarinesFollow

Not all military units are coed.

Having been in the Infantry, it was all men in my unit.

As for the rest of it, I served 10 years, I had a couple of guys that were gay in various units I was in. For the most part, the others just ignore it. Actually, last time I was in Iraq we had a gay guy, you know how much people cared? None. As long as he pulled his weight, and trigger, it was irrelevant.

People forget that the military is made of of members of society. A lot of people in regular society don't care, so in turn not a lot of the military cares.

Not all military members are raging redneck homophobes. But of course people look for the minority and use it to stir the pot.

The only time an issue arises is when someone very flamboyant wants to serve openly. This isn't your personal pedestal, we have more important **** to worry about than you using the unit as your own personal little vendetta against society and/or the military.

What it all comes down to for gays in the military is the EXACT same thing it comes down to for hetero members, and to quote an old platoon sergeant of mine:

"Shut the **** up and do your job, no one gives a **** about the rest."

That's pretty much what I figured, Filterspawn. Thanks.

No. He's saying if gays were given private rooms, lots of straight soldiers would claim to be gay to get private quarters as well.

-1 for you.

Then wouldn't they just put all the fake gay soldiers together?

If lots of people did it, they wouldn't be getting private rooms, just faux fabulous rooms.

I don't really see the problem, it's not as if they can be forced to **** each other by the high command under penalty of law. That's reserved for Abu Ghraib inmates. If anything it would be a self solving problem, as it would filter the soldier into groups based on similar values.

Hoo-ah and all that.

...then don't join the military. It's chock full of doing things you probably don't want to do.

What is the issue exactly with not having men and women in the military share barracks and showers?

Same answer.

Having straight men and straight women together can be a problem because... wait for it... straight men and women usually hook up! But all of the gay men I've ever known would rather be with another gay man. Yes, really. While I know there are some gay men that might find a straight man attractive, most of them would never act on it. (And then there was the gay guy I was friends with that would become "straight" after he'd had too many to drink, but that's another story.)

Bolded for the massive irony. There have been gays in the Marines since...probably forever.

Maybe you should read Studs Terkel's The Good War for a few insights?


You likely won't, of course, because you are a narrow-minded goob of gbaji-like proportions; just this once, though, won't you at least give self-education a shot?

How many people have you shared a room with in those ten years? If it's anything above 15, then it's highly likely you shared a room with a gay man at one point, even if you didn't know it. Gays make up about 2-10% of the population, though the exact number is difficult to pin down due to cultural differences as well as those who don't want to report it. In places gays are accepted you will see a higher number of people who identify as it, because they aren't afraid to admit their own feelings to themselves.

The problem is everyone things gays have to be these flaming ****** of doom that talk with a lisp and wear boas and too tight pants, when the reality is most gays are literally guys who like other guys. No other difference. None. Good luck spotting a normal gay out of a crowd of men, though sometimes you can sniff one out due to hormonal differences and a good nose. <_< You gotta be a female though. And the men have to be sweaty. (gay guys supposedly don't smell as good to women as straight men, females smell good to straight men, and males smell good to gay men, but not females, though of course, individual genes and health play a part as well.) Some females I've met smell sweetish, due to high genetic differences, but most to me smell musky if anything, which is an abominable smell to me, reminding me of frumpy old ladies. Most men on the other hand, smell a mixture of sweet and/or spicy, though some smell sour or musky as well, mainly if they aren't in good health or haven't washed in a while. <_<; I got a nose like a bloodhounds though, so your results may vary. I just wish I could train it to smell out gay guys, but the problem is I've only seen a few other guys I knew for sure were gay.

Since I've lived 25 years, live in California near the San Diego area, and have met countless people in that time, that should give you an idea just how many gay guys totally slip under the radar, even when you're looking for it. Plenty of false alarms from metrosexuals though. ._.;

A relative of yours?

I don't think they let French people in the Marines. Maybe under a DADT agreement...