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#1 Aug 25 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Sub-Default
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7bcd94def4a124acf37f2ecca4bd572.c21&show_article=1


You mean to tell me most marines don't want a ************ as a roomy? Who'dve thunk it.

And I think it's safe to say this generals opinion is shared by most of the us armed services.
#2 Aug 25 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Guess they'll have to deal with it.
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#3 Aug 25 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
Because using derogatory names such as "************" is a great way to be taken seriously.
#4 Aug 25 2010 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
varusword75 wrote:
And I think it's safe to say this generals opinion is shared by most of the us armed services.


I don't think it's safe to assume anything based on Breitbart other than "Breitbart is a moron."
#5 Aug 25 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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#6 Aug 25 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
If homosexuals are in the Marines, doesn't that make the Marines in question homosexual?
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varusword75 wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7bcd94def4a124acf37f2ecca4bd572.c21&show_article=1


You mean to tell me most marines don't want a ************ as a roomy? Who'dve thunk it.

And I think it's safe to say this generals opinion is shared by most of the us armed services.
Pretty sure Marines cried when women were allowed in too.
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#8REDACTED, Posted: Aug 25 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Tulip,
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He added that "in some instances we will have people that say that homosexuality is wrong and they simply do not want to room with a person of that persuasion because it would go against their religious beliefs."


Lol, These are soldiers. They have no issue shooting down men, wimminz and kids, but they can't share a room with a gay person??

I've never heard of any religion that bans sharing a room with a ****.




Edited, Aug 25th 2010 6:01pm by Elinda
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#10 Aug 25 2010 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tulip,

Feel free to cooberate the story. The general said that no matter how much you liberals may wish he hadn't.

Fact is liberals don't give two sh*ts about the military or what members of the military think.


Most liberals certainly cooberate the military.

I think.
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Ugly,

Your lack of historical knowledge never ceases to astound me. I'm guessing the military men were focused more on killing ***** and **** to worry about women working in factory plants back home.

You know damn well that's not what I'm talking about. If gays weren't in combat with the marines, you know the homophobe rednecks in the military wouldn't care then either.
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#13 Aug 25 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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There will be logistic issues when gays are permitted to serve openly in the service. I remember the living conditions as a single Soldier were cramped to put it lightly. I see forcing a straight soldier being forced to share a room with a gay Soldier when he is not comfortable with it being like forcing a female soldier to room with a straight male soldier. Its not acceptable.

Next issue is giving gay soldiers private rooms wile straight Soldiers have to share. That will lead to a increased level of hostility aimed at them them and that breaks up the unit and lowers morale.

I have read about the military having a "single Solders program" as some posting where Solders get a room ( and space ) to them selves. Under this policy its more feasible to have gays mixed openly in the unit as the only worry you will have is erasing homophobia from the ranks. I'm guessing it will be like when they stopped segregating the black Soldiers from the white or when female Soldiers became more common place in active duty roles.
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#14 Aug 25 2010 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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There will be logistic issues when gays are permitted to serve openly in the service. I remember the living conditions as a single Soldier were cramped to put it lightly. I see forcing a straight soldier being forced to share a room with a gay Soldier when he is not comfortable with it being like forcing a female soldier to room with a straight male soldier. Its not acceptable.

Next issue is giving gay soldiers private rooms wile straight Soldiers have to share. That will lead to a increased level of hostility aimed at them them and that breaks up the unit and lowers morale.


/lightbulb - How about the gay guys share rooms with the ladies?
/devilsadvocate - Wonder how many marines will go gay, should that become policy?

Edited, Aug 25th 2010 11:23am by BrownDuck
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/lightbulb - How about the gay guys share rooms with the ladies?

Then most guys will claim to be gay and the women's rights groups will go nuts...along with the religious groups.



/devilsadvocate - Wonder how many marines will go gay, should that become policy?

I remember this coming up when I was in. Lost of Soldiers would claim to be gay just for the privacy the room along would bring. Shortly followed by Judicial punishment for getting caught lieing.

Edited, Aug 25th 2010 11:23am by BrownDuck
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Pretty sure Marines cried when women were allowed in too.
You should hear them when they lose in combatives.
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#17 Aug 25 2010 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
Can't we all just cooberate?
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#18 Aug 25 2010 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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What is the issue, exactly? Is it just the "ick" factor? Is it the idea of being observed by someone who might be attracted to you, even if that is never acknowledged?

Cause really, if that's all it is then sack up and get over yourself.

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As I posted to my facebook a few months ago:

"How feeble, undisciplined, and weak-minded do people estimate our military to be, that they think it would suffer from the presence of gays?"


Seriously, I thought marines were supposed to be tough?


Also: same argument could have been made for Blacks in the military, etc etc. Fuck off.




Edited, Aug 25th 2010 12:01pm by trickybeck
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#21 Aug 25 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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You know, by definition some of those heroes are gay.

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#22 Aug 25 2010 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
What is the issue, exactly? Is it just the "ick" factor? Is it the idea of being observed by someone who might be attracted to you, even if that is never acknowledged?

Cause really, if that's all it is then sack up and get over yourself.



I'm not particularly well-versed in military day-to-day. Women are provided separate quarters, and for that second reason, right? If that's indeed the case, then it only seems fair to provide separate rooming for gay and lesbian service folk.

But if the logistics/fairness of providing separate rooms is the best case against including homosexuals in the marines, then I say "tough luck." It's a very small issue compared to the importance of allowing gays to openly serve.
#23 Aug 25 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Samy,

How about we not subject the men who see to protecting our freedoms to the sickness that is homosexuality.



Is it really worth mentioning that this opinion is entirely based on religious beliefs? Religious beliefs being something that the government can't act on.

No, it's not. I did it anyway.
#24 Aug 25 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Breitbart wrote:
Some 78 percent of Americans say gays should be allowed to serve in the military, according to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll.

While the above is a statistic likely gleaned from numerous opinion polls and fairly standard survey practices, the general's statements appear to be nothing but a personal opinion disguised as common knowledge, based on nothing but annecdotal evidence.

I'm inclined to believe the former rather than the latter.
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#25 Aug 25 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
When I pronounce cooberate, I pronounce the first two syllables like Cuba Gooding Jr's first name. Cooba.


Anyway, I think it's great that GI's are forced to be around gays. I get a warm feeling in my ***** thinking about soldiers dieing, and if they're forced to participate in sodomy first, all the fUcking better. They knew what they were signing up for.
#26 Aug 25 2010 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
I've known quite a few Gay Marines. Calling them what you did might get you hurt.
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