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#1 Aug 23 2010 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/20/saudi.arabia.paralysis/index.html wrote:
Amnesty International on Friday urged Saudi Arabian authorities not to paralyze a man as punishment for his having paralyzed someone else, allegedly during a fight.

The Saudi newspaper Okaz reported that the judge in the case had sent letters to several hospitals in Saudi Arabia asking if they could sever a man's spinal cord, as the man he allegedly stabbed had requested and, under sharia law, was his right to seek.

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The paralyzed man, 22-year-old Abdul-Aziz al-Mitairy, told Okaz that the accused stabbed him in the back with a large knife during a fight more than two years ago. "The accused confessed to the crime in front of police, resulting in a general sentence of seven months," he told the newspaper.

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It is up to the court to decide whether to impose the paralysis punishment or sentence the man to imprisonment, financial compensation, or flogging, it said.

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Other sentences of retribution in the kingdom have included eye-gouging, tooth extraction, and death in cases involving murder, it said.

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Under Islamic law, compassion is an important virtue for any judge, Ahmed said. "However harsh the punishment would be in tribal law, an eye for an eye, the compassion element that must be exercised by the judge overrides it, and I'm afraid we don't see much of that in cases like this where, very often, the victim becomes twice punished," he added.


Damn. Ok, I get the old testement. It was pretty hip and conformist for its day but jesus, can you imagine a world where you get to wrong the person that wrong you?

Neighbor borrow your car while his is in the shop and he gets drunk and crashes it? You get to take a ball bat to his car, while he watches.

Could we live in a world where the punishment fit the crime? Do you think it would make people stop and think about the things the do to each other? Or would it just be chaos and naturally on pay per view?
#2 Aug 23 2010 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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The Saudi newspaper Okaz reported that the judge in the case had sent letters to several hospitals in Saudi Arabia asking if they could sever a man's spinal cord, as the man he allegedly stabbed had requested and, under sharia law, was his right to seek.


Hopefully the Doctors will show some backbone and refuse to do it.
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#3 Aug 23 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sharia law, as currently interpreted and carried out, is barbaric.
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#4 Aug 23 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
I think I'd rather be paralyzed than spend a few years in Saudi prison. Those guys are fUcking hairy and I've got blue eyes.


It is kind of a bummer that I could go and stomp the **** out of someone, and I'd get less time than if the cops discovered the plants I've got growing in my kitcwhen, though.
#5 Aug 23 2010 at 9:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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It is kind of a bummer that I could go and stomp the sh*t out of someone, and I'd get less time than if the cops discovered the plants I've got growing in my kitcwhen, though.


Totally. You might as well be in Texas.

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#6 Aug 23 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
Sounds good to me. If I get caught smoking weed on the street, does this mean a police officer will offer me a blowback?
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#7 Aug 23 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds good to me. If I get caught smoking weed on the street, does this mean a police officer will offer me a blowback?
From what it sounds like, only after your jail sentence.
#8 Aug 23 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Sounds good to me. If I get caught smoking weed on the street, does this mean a police officer will offer me a blowback?


I read that as ******* at first.

Now re-reading, it makes more sense.

It was a long weekend and it will be an even longer Monday.
#9 Aug 23 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Sounds good to me. If I get caught smoking weed on the street, does this mean a police officer will offer me a blowback?


I read that as ******* at first.

Now re-reading, it makes more sense.

It was a long weekend and it will be an even longer Monday.



When I first read it I thought, "What does pot have to do with document productions?"

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#10 Aug 23 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Sounds good to me. If I get caught smoking weed on the street, does this mean a police officer will offer me a blowback?


I read that as ******* at first.

Now re-reading, it makes more sense.

It was a long weekend and it will be an even longer Monday.



When I first read it I thought, "What does pot have to do with document productions?"
If it's the same thing as I think Red is talking about - we called them 'power hits'.
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#11 Aug 23 2010 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
I read so many posts on this forum which essentially advocate for an eye-for-an-eye. Yet when it might actually occur, those voices are eerily silent.

Perhaps they realized they share that much with a rather strict religious world view not their own.

Probably not.
#12 Aug 23 2010 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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I read so many posts on this forum which essentially advocate for an eye-for-an-eye. Yet when it might actually occur, those voices are eerily silent.

Perhaps they realized they share that much with a rather strict religious world view not their own.

Probably not.


Amen brother....
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#13 Aug 23 2010 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
My main objection is that they're not allowing the victim to perform the severing himself.
#14 Aug 23 2010 at 7:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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yossarian wrote:
I read so many posts on this forum which essentially advocate for an eye-for-an-eye. Yet when it might actually occur, those voices are eerily silent.

Perhaps they realized they share that much with a rather strict religious world view not their own.

Probably not.


That doesn't really take into account the pain and suffering exchange rate. It should probably be closer to an eye for an eye and a quarter if you adjust for inflation and the currency exchange rate. Though to be fair we should really let them specify any eye. I mean, maybe they have a cousin they don't really like or something...
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#15 Aug 23 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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My main objection is that they're not allowing the victim to perform the severing himself.


Yeah, that'd be some great TV moments, there. The blind trying to blind someone could be a mini-series.

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MDenham wrote:
My main objection is that they're not allowing the victim to perform the severing himself.


Yeah, that'd be some great TV moments, there. The blind trying to blind someone could be a mini-series.



"Congratulations! You have succeeded in blinding your attacker in only 36 hours, 15 minutes and 27 seconds. A new course record! Unfortunatly, you also managed to trip andstab him in the groin, so i'm afraid now it's your turn on Iran's favorite reality series, lalalalala Sharia Law tonight!"
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#17 Aug 23 2010 at 9:40 PM Rating: Good
Personally, if the victim isn't a bad enough dude to rip out this guy's spine with his own bare hands then I'm not sure if he deserves his vengeance.
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Personally, if the victim isn't a bad enough dude to rip out this guy's spine with his own bare hands then I'm not sure if he deserves his vengeance.


Yeah, but you know, what if he's quadriplegic? Then he's gotta use his teeth, and somebody has to hold him up... I dunno, I foresee problems here.

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#19 Aug 23 2010 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
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Sharia law, as currently interpreted and carried out, is barbaric.

Why are we friends with these guys again?

Oh, right...
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#20 Aug 24 2010 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
MDenham wrote:
My main objection is that they're not allowing the victim to perform the severing himself.


Yeah, that'd be some great TV moments, there. The blind trying to blind someone could be a mini-series.



It would be very quiet live TV. Unless they used canned applause. 'Cos you know what they do to thieves there dontcha?

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#21 Aug 24 2010 at 5:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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paulsol wrote:
Samira wrote:
MDenham wrote:
My main objection is that they're not allowing the victim to perform the severing himself.


Yeah, that'd be some great TV moments, there. The blind trying to blind someone could be a mini-series.



It would be very quiet live TV. Unless they used canned applause. 'Cos you know what they do to thieves there dontcha?



Hire them to demonstrate Buddhist koans?

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