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#27 Aug 02 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's possible to find phones without cameras attached, but it's getting harder and harder to find them. Which is kind of a problem for people who work in restricted access sites (where oddly, they don't want you walking in and out with a camera of any kind).

It seems like 12-13 is a pretty standard age for most kids to get cell phones. That's about the age where they're going to be hanging out with friends and involved in other activities where they'll be out of your sight more often than just to/from school. Don't spend a lot of money on the phone. In fact, make sure the first phone you buy them is cheap, but with a promise that if they don't lose it and follow the rules, they'll get one with more features in a year (next birthday/christmas/whatever).

Either don't enable texting at all, or pay for an unlimited plan. Unless the phone/plan is completely pre-pay, you might get screwed doing it any other way. If you get a limited plan, make sure it's of the "we shut off the feature at X minutes" and not "you get the pre-pay rate up to x minutes, then we charge you the big bucks". I've just heard way to many nightmare stories about that. In any case, you'll want to make sure that the voice connection will always work no matter where the minutes are, which can be a problem with a hard limited minutes plan. The whole point of the phone is so that you can contact your child, and your child can contact you. If hitting some cap prevents that from happening, then the purpose of the phone is defeated and that'll suck.


The parents are always going to be the best judge of their child, of course. But I don't think it's out of the ordinary for kids to get cell phones around middle school age. The biggest factor is responsibility, and only you can judge that.
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#28 Aug 02 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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No phone for Noah yet. He's only 8 and he's never anywhere that he can't either reach us or be reached by us. He says he wants one to play games on though. /sigh


iPod touch?
#29 Aug 02 2010 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
No phone for Noah yet. He's only 8 and he's never anywhere that he can't either reach us or be reached by us. He says he wants one to play games on though. /sigh


iPod touch?


He has a DS and we have 2 computers, a Wii and Xbox 360. I think he's got the game thing covered, lol.
#30 Aug 02 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
No phone for Noah yet. He's only 8 and he's never anywhere that he can't either reach us or be reached by us. He says he wants one to play games on though. /sigh


iPod touch?


He has a DS and we have 2 computers, a Wii and Xbox 360. I think he's got the game thing covered, lol.


Yeah, but you can't get totally cool apps on any of those systems, Nad. Geez. Smiley: grin
#31 Aug 02 2010 at 8:55 PM Rating: Good
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I do believe there are downloadable applications for your computer to monitor your child's cell usage. Every incoming/outgoing text and call can be recorded. I think I saw it on Oprah or something. Anyway, if you really feel justified and have good reasons to get a young child a cell phone, they certainly don't deserve any sort of right to privacy with how they use it. Do some googling and find out some solutions. Plus, another added benefit some companies have is the child tracker thing, where you can use the phone's GPS so you know where your kid is at all times. The pros are pretty heavy, especially for a young actress.
#32 Aug 02 2010 at 8:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
No phone for Noah yet. He's only 8 and he's never anywhere that he can't either reach us or be reached by us. He says he wants one to play games on though. /sigh


iPod touch?


He has a DS and we have 2 computers, a Wii and Xbox 360. I think he's got the game thing covered, lol.


Yeah, but you can't get totally cool apps on any of those systems, Nad. Geez. Smiley: grin


I'm a bad mom. =(
#33 Aug 02 2010 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
No phone for Noah yet. He's only 8 and he's never anywhere that he can't either reach us or be reached by us. He says he wants one to play games on though. /sigh


iPod touch?


He has a DS and we have 2 computers, a Wii and Xbox 360. I think he's got the game thing covered, lol.


Yeah, but you can't get totally cool apps on any of those systems, Nad. Geez. Smiley: grin


I'm a bad mom. =(


Darn tootin'.

On a side note, when I asked my mom for a Gameboy for Christmas way back when, she got me an Atari Lynx. In many ways, the Atari Lynx was actually better than the Gameboy. And the fact that no one else had an Atari Lynx so you couldn't exactly link them up and play with them didn't really matter to me, because I was a girl, so none of my friends liked video games anyway.

I still have the Atari Lynx. And it still works. It has a color screen, which the Gameboy didn't at the time.

So.... Anyone want to buy an Atari Lynx...? I've got about a dozen games for it.
#34 Aug 02 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Before MrDF, Kailey did not have a cell phone, however Trey did. Trey was a teen and if I wanted to get a hold of him for any reason at any time, blah blah blah and reverse.

However, MrDF's kids, all three, ages 14, 10, & 6 had cell phones. So for Christmas Kai got a cell phone.

Pros:
you can usually locate them via phone, text, or family locator
it's a great thing to reduce the I want a phone, camera, DSi, mp3 player, laptop thing we were dealing with
it's great for when they misbehave, the phone is the first thing to go
I know more about them since they have phones and use facebook when they are with the other parent!
it's been a great source of learning responsibility

Cons:
they are always on it!!! (but I have no room to talk here, I am always on mine as well)
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#35 Aug 02 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
[On a side note, when I asked my mom for a Gameboy for Christmas way back when, she got me an Atari Lynx. In many ways, the Atari Lynx was actually better than the Gameboy. And the fact that no one else had an Atari Lynx so you couldn't exactly link them up and play with them didn't really matter to me, because I was a girl, so none of my friends liked video games anyway.

I still have the Atari Lynx. And it still works. It has a color screen, which the Gameboy didn't at the time.

So.... Anyone want to buy an Atari Lynx...? I've got about a dozen games for it.

Oh man...I remember that whole period, when everyone had GameBoys (except me) and the one or two iconoclastic hip kids got the Lynx instead and it was soooo awesome!

If I had some money, I'd grab that up and give it tom Thom when he turned six or so.
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#36 Aug 02 2010 at 9:38 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
[On a side note, when I asked my mom for a Gameboy for Christmas way back when, she got me an Atari Lynx. In many ways, the Atari Lynx was actually better than the Gameboy. And the fact that no one else had an Atari Lynx so you couldn't exactly link them up and play with them didn't really matter to me, because I was a girl, so none of my friends liked video games anyway.

I still have the Atari Lynx. And it still works. It has a color screen, which the Gameboy didn't at the time.

So.... Anyone want to buy an Atari Lynx...? I've got about a dozen games for it.

Oh man...I remember that whole period, when everyone had GameBoys (except me) and the one or two iconoclastic hip kids got the Lynx instead and it was soooo awesome!

If I had some money, I'd grab that up and give it tom Thom when he turned six or so.


How old is Thom? If I can actually bring myself to part with it (and talk my husband into parting with it, though he never actually plays it), I might just send it to ya free of charge. It's not like I actually play it anymore.

But, really, in a world of DS's, it's going to seriously pale in comparison. Smiley: lol
#37 Aug 02 2010 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Right now, he's two and a half. He likes pointing at the characters moving around the screens when we play EQ2 and hitting the spacebar to make them jump.

My wife has held on to a small horde of old-school gaming systems so that one day she can edjumicate Thom in the ways of classic video gaming, which apparently means playing Mortal Kombat and Legend of Zelda on half a dozen NES units.
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#38 Aug 02 2010 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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Right now, he's two and a half. He likes pointing at the characters moving around the screens when we play EQ2 and hitting the spacebar to make them jump.

My wife has held on to a small horde of old-school gaming systems so that one day she can edjumicate Thom in the ways of classic video gaming, which apparently means playing Mortal Kombat and Legend of Zelda on half a dozen NES units.


It's sad that today's youth doesn't have to keep ET from falling in the pit, and they can't help Montezuma get his revenge. Smiley: frown

I miss my old Atari. I actually miss my Commodore 64, too. I recently downloaded a C64 emulator and played a disjointed, choppy game of M.U.L.E.

Ah, the good ol' days.
#39 Aug 02 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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I'll just throw this out there: I'm almost 27 years old and I still don't own a cell phone.


(The one that I have to carry for work every two weeks when I'm on call doesn't count...)
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#40 Aug 02 2010 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'll just throw this out there: I'm almost 27 years old and I still don't own a cell phone.


(The one that I have to carry for work every two weeks when I'm on call doesn't count...)

Sounds like me. I was...26? Before I got a girlfriend who got me a collarcellphone.
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#41 Aug 03 2010 at 4:53 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Right now, he's two and a half. He likes pointing at the characters moving around the screens when we play EQ2 and hitting the spacebar to make them jump.

My wife has held on to a small horde of old-school gaming systems so that one day she can edjumicate Thom in the ways of classic video gaming, which apparently means playing Mortal Kombat and Legend of Zelda on half a dozen NES units.


It's sad that today's youth doesn't have to keep ET from falling in the pit, and they can't help Montezuma get his revenge. Smiley: frown

I miss my old Atari. I actually miss my Commodore 64, too. I recently downloaded a C64 emulator and played a disjointed, choppy game of M.U.L.E.

Ah, the good ol' days.


Or swinging on a rope vine across a pit of alligators...

I just downloaded a couple of oldies on the Wii. A Link to the Past and Ogre Battle. <3 the Wii and the classic games.
#42 Aug 03 2010 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
Ogre Battle.


I love that game*, and need to get the N64 version.

*I better love that game, considering I paid $86 for it a few years ago.
#43 Aug 03 2010 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
Ogre Battle.


I love that game*, and need to get the N64 version.

*I better love that game, considering I paid $86 for it a few years ago.
You can download both Ogre Battle games on Wii virtual console.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2010 7:49am by AshOnMyTomatoes
#44 Aug 03 2010 at 7:00 AM Rating: Good
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Scrap the cell phones and just install gps tracking implants.
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#45 Aug 03 2010 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Ogre Battle.


I love that game*, and need to get the N64 version.

*I better love that game, considering I paid $86 for it a few years ago.
You can download both Ogre Battle games on Wii virtual console.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2010 7:49am by AshOnMyTomatoes


Yep, getting the one for the 64 next. The only thing I don't like about the original is that once you start a campaign, you're kinda there for an hour or two. No saving. That was easier for me when I was younger, but now I get interrupted so much.

Never played the one for the 64, but I've read good things about it.
#46 Aug 03 2010 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd have to say no on the cell phone. Plans aren't where they need to be and you're rarely far enough from a phone for it to be a safety issue (if you are you're with someone who drives, and probably has a cell phone.) It's a convenience, an expensive one with little benefit and lots of risks. At that age you generally know where your kids are anyway (if you don't they're lying to you, which they can do just as well on a cell phone). Give her a roll of quarters.

My kids will get cell phones when adding phones to a family plan costs a couple bucks at most and talk/text/bandwidth is unlimited for $30-40 a month, they should be already considering they're cheaper to run than landlines.
#47 Aug 03 2010 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
It'll seem old school and stuff, but a pager is a delicious way to let her know you wanna talk to her RIGHT NOW without taking the risks of texting and talking and all that.
#48 Aug 03 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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It'll seem old school and stuff, but a pager is a delicious way to let her know you wanna talk to her RIGHT NOW without taking the risks of texting and talking and all that.


It's also an excellent way to let her know that you're ready to pay for the meth she has acquired for you. Smiley: nod
#49 Aug 03 2010 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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I was talking to some else and they brought up a good point. They live in Hollywood and brought up the point that sometimes a cell phone is needed when you're on the set. Even though an adult would be with Charmaine at all times because she's a minor but on the set, sometimes a quick text is needed to be sent to her from production on change of blocking or something and they don't want to intrude and mess up the set.

#50 Aug 03 2010 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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I was talking to some else and they brought up a good point. They live in Hollywood and brought up the point that sometimes a cell phone is needed when you're on the set. Even though an adult would be with Charmaine at all times because she's a minor but on the set, sometimes a quick text is needed to be sent to her from production on change of blocking or something and they don't want to intrude and mess up the set.



If an adult has to be with her at all times beause she's a minor, couldn't the adult simply receive the text and relay the message...?
#51 Aug 03 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
It's sad that today's youth doesn't have to keep ET from falling in the pit

Man, even I don't want to subject today's youth to that game...


Totally missing out on Yar's Revenge though
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