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#1 Jul 13 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
Much like these boards, the amount of head butting for the smallest rock on the mountain often crops up in RL. Recently a girl that I've known for 5 years showed her political and religious beliefs and it struck me that I never really knew much about her. Ours was always a more run into each other, hang out, drink some beers and bullsh*t about nothing kind of friendship.

But when she showed me one of those chain emails that have pictures of marquee signs in the South that read "When I press one for English how come I'm not talking to anyone that speaks English?" kind of bullsh*t. I made the flippant off handed remark that those kinds of emails are "pro-americana at the point of a gun" and they're total bullsh*t. Then we got into the debate about Arizona (you know the one).

In hindsight, I realized we had nothing in common (because we don't have sex, we only have personalities) and I couldn't figure out how we were friends for so long.

My question is do Politics and Religion matter so much to people that it would prevent them from hooking up with someone that didn't share the same core values or can you get past certain things like stances on immigration and just agree to disagree, then have a relationship?

Are politics a deal breaker for you?

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 1:55pm by Kaelesh
#2 Jul 13 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, famously, Republican political consultant Mary Matalin and Democratic consultant and goblin-kin James Carville are married. They say it works because politics are their job and they don't discuss work at home.

I don't know if I could be married to someone diametrically opposed to most of my political viewpoints but I suppose it could work with someone largely apolitical. Flea's the only relationship I've ever really had who displayed any knowledge or interest in the political realm. Even still we clash on a couple topics but those are the minority.
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#3 Jul 13 2010 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kaelesh wrote:
My question is do Politics and Religion matter so much to people that it would prevent them from hooking up with someone that didn't share the same core values or can you get past certain things like stances on immigration and just agree to disagree, then have a relationship?

Are politics a deal breaker for you?


Politics would not be a deal breaker as long as the other person's ethical values match or approximate mine. Differences of opinion can be refreshing. I have to be able to respect my partner, though. That's just basic.

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#4 Jul 13 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think Mary Matilin and James Carville have ever successfully bred.
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I don't think Mary Matilin and James Carville have ever successfully bred.

According to the Wikiwebs they have two offspring. I'm guessing they had more but Carville messily devoured the other children before his handlers were able to separate them.
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#6 Jul 13 2010 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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Kaelesh wrote:

My question is do Politics and Religion matter so much to people that it would prevent them from hooking up with someone that didn't share the same core values or can you get past certain things like stances on immigration and just agree to disagree, then have a relationship?

Are politics a deal breaker for you?

No. Politics wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. If you added values then 'yes'. If religion, though, is important to an individual differing practices and opinions could cause serious problems.

When thinking about compatibilities, imagine having a kid with the person. Could you or would you tolerate your child being raised with the others ideologies?
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#7 Jul 13 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think Mary Matilin and James Carville have ever successfully bred.

According to the Wikiwebs they have two offspring. I'm guessing they had more but Carville messily devoured the other children before his handlers were able to separate them.
Haha, I guess I just assumed then didnt have kids cuz Mary looks barren...and I'd never read or heard anything about offspring.
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#8 Jul 13 2010 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
My mother was a labor Democrat from Detroit. Her parents weren't political in the least, but her father was a union member in the Ford factories, and she firmly believed that unions were necessary for business.

My father was a true red-blooded Republican, and the extended family on his side is very active in the GOP in ND and Montana.

They managed to stay married for 39 years (before my dad passed away) by never, ever, ever, ever talking about politics to each other. Ever. They also avoided talking about it to us kids when we were within earshot of the other parent. My mom had "Buy American: While there's still time" on the back of her Chevy station wagon, while my dad would occasional lament about the need to legalize and tax drugs in order to pay for rehab social services, instead of charging non-addicts for the services.

That said, they were both moderates and had common ground in a few areas. Both were pro-choice, to the extent that they believed a family should have control over reproductive choices (although they detested abortion, being Catholic.)
#9 Jul 13 2010 at 1:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think Mary Matilin and James Carville have ever successfully bred.


Mating != breeding, you reproductionist.

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#10 Jul 13 2010 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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I dated a Pentecostal back in '01. She had converted to Pentecostal herself, none of her family were. An odd choice, in retrospect, and one that I never inquired after.

Anyway, we didn't talk much about religious stuff. She knew I was an atheist, and we were both OK with it. Although there was one incident where she had a bad dream about my Magic: the Gathering cards...

So I'd say, with both religion and politics, as long as neither person involved is overly vocal about their beliefs, there shouldn't be too much discord.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 2:18pm by AshOnMyTomatoes
#11 Jul 13 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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When thinking about compatibilities, imagine having a kid with the person. Could you or would you tolerate your child being raised with the others ideologies?


This isn't exactly on topic of my original question but this has happened to me. The woman I was dating (who I know have a 7 year old with) when she got pregnant, it was a total 180 on me. She went from liberal to conservative, athiest to god-worshipping and from loving my black *** to hating me.

Now our daughter is completely raised in her mothers values with no influence of mine and hot damn it would be nice if she could be taught the differences in the world. I'm squashed out by the very nature of being a "part-time father".
#12 Jul 13 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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They say it works because politics are their job and they don't discuss work at home.


I think this is really the key. Politics and religion are so divisive that if you and your partner don't share the same beliefs, it's probably better, generally speaking, to avoid the subject(s) where possible. I'm not advocating ignorance of the issues or abstinence from intellectual debate, but there's no need to argue the same damn point over and over if you know you're not likely to change the other person's mind anyway, and I certainly wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for eating peanuts.
#13 Jul 13 2010 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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I certainly wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for eating peanuts.
What if you had a deadly peanut allergy?
#14 Jul 13 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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and I certainly wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for eating peanuts.


After all the work it takes you to get one in the sack, I wouldn't either if I were you.
#15 Jul 13 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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They managed to stay married for 39 years (before my dad passed away) by never, ever, ever, ever talking about politics to each other. Ever.


No opposite attracts kind of business going on there?

I don't think I could be with a woman that, or friends even for that matter, that refused to even discuss the issue, regardless of their beliefs. It's too wierd for me. Like that elephant over there.
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Assuming they have a solid rationale for their beliefs it's workable. even if they differ substantially, but if they are a moron about it, it's a turn off.
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Kaelesh wrote:
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and I certainly wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for eating peanuts.
After all the work cash it takes you to get one in the sack, I wouldn't either if I were you.

Right.

In terms of religion, aside from a short-lived dating thing with a Jewish girl, anyone I've ever had a lasting relationship with was at least raised nominally Christian* although some were pretty much agnostic by the time I came around (and one who was into the whole "majick" and "Isis" thing). Again, I don't think I could be involved with someone actively hostile to my beliefs but adherence to Catholicism wouldn't be a requirement.
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#18 Jul 13 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty sure gays aren't allowed to be Republican without being self-loathing.
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My question is do Politics and Religion matter so much to people that it would prevent them from hooking up with someone that didn't share the same core values or can you get past certain things like stances on immigration and just agree to disagree, then have a relationship?


Relationship? No. Sport fucking? Sure. The great thing about conservative women is that, like all conservatives, they don't apply any of their political beliefs to themselves, so you can have a one night stand with one then just kick her down the stairs without worrying about the consequences. Try that **** with a NOW member.



They managed to stay married for 39 years (before my dad passed away) by never, ever, ever, ever talking about politics to each other


Aww, that sounds like a sweet, completely loveless, marriage where you and your siblings ate your parents dreams as they quietly prayed for death. I hope I can have that with Nexa someday. Maybe she'll find God soon.

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I hope I can have that with Nexa someday. Maybe she'll find God soon.

Then she can be more than just a sport-fuck.
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#21 Jul 13 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Relationship? No. Sport *******? Sure. The great thing about conservative women is that, like all conservatives, they don't apply any of their political beliefs to themselves, so you can have a one night stand with one then just kick her down the stairs without worrying about the consequences. Try that sh*t with a NOW member.

Mmm, yummy self-hatred.

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#22 Jul 13 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Relationship? No. Sport fucking? Sure.


I shall take this answer back to my supervisor, synergize and attempt to reach a mutally conducive conclusion with that neo-con broad I want to bang.

Thanks.
#23 Jul 13 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh wrote:
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and I certainly wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for eating peanuts.
After all the work cash it takes you to get one in the sack, I wouldn't either if I were you.

Right.


It's mere peanuts, Joph.
#24 Jul 13 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Good luck. Everyone knows those b*tches hate men and sex in general. Of course they are the snaggle toothed uber d*kes that no man would approach anyway.

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I hope I can have that with Nexa someday. Maybe she'll find God soon.

Then she can be more than just a sport-fuck.


I'm not certain I know what this means?

As for myself, I can have very close friends who are moderately religious (hi Joph and Flea), but again, reasonably share my value system and aren't pushing some religious ideology on me. However, I can't imagine being in any sort of serious relationship with someone who was either religious or on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me. I recognize that that's because I'm one of the few Americans who are actually active politically. I think asking this question in this particular forum will result with more answers in the "hell no" category than are really applicable to the population at large (at least on the political side, if not the religious side) since the majority of Americans either don't really understand their own political affiliation, don't care, or both.

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#26 Jul 13 2010 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think I would have a problem with someone who had a different political viewpoint then I, as long as it wasn't extremely separated. I do not think I could really have a relationship with someone that did not share my religious views. There can be differences of opinion, but if the base is different, that would make things difficult.

Friends however is fine. I have friends who have very different views politically then me, and very good friends who are completely atheist. They're not anti-christian though, that would probably strain the friendship a bit.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 5:29pm by Xsarus
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