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#27 Jul 13 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
Samy,

No you're not. If you cared about people you wouldn't have the govn employ forced slavery on the populace.

#28 Jul 13 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

No you're not. If you cared about people you wouldn't have the govn employ forced slavery on the populace.

Here's a site that you would probably enjoy. It is populated almost entirely by people as paranoid and hopelessly corrupted by Glen Beck and Rush as you.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 12:33pm by AshOnMyTomatoes
#29 Jul 13 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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If you cared about people you wouldn't have the govn employ forced slavery on the populace.


What the ***?
#30 Jul 13 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't even find any other conservatives on the web saying Steinbrenner faked his death to preserve his wealth. Not even Glen Beck has made that Olympian leap of logic yet.

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Varrus is even nuttier than Glen Beck.
#31 Jul 13 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
I'm surprised no one else has mentioned the possibility. I can't believe no one would think someone worth nearly 1 billion might fake his own death to save his family hundreds of millions and possibly the ownership of the Yankees.
#32 Jul 13 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
Because Occam's razor comes into play, and the dude was 80 years old.

You're thinking of the plot from HHGTTG, which you have said you read. Instead of faking his death, however, that rock star merely spent a year dead for tax purposes. Presumably he was revived after that one year. George ain't coming back.

Also, something that occurred to me about many Republicans: They believe in each person pulling himself or herself up by his or her own bootstraps. However, assistance in any form doesn't count when it comes from parents or grandparents. So it's all those poor people's faults for not having rich parents to begin with.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 2:07pm by catwho
#33 Jul 13 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, something that occurred to me about many Republicans: They believe in each person pulling himself or herself up by his or her own bootstraps. However, assistance in any form doesn't count when it comes from parents or grandparents. So it's all those poor people's faults for not having rich parents to begin with.

I work hard and try to advance my career for 3 reasons. The first is pride in accomplishment. It feels good to do a good job in a position that has value to an organization and to be rewarded for that. The second is to make my life, and that of my family, more comfortable. It is nice to provide things for my family and myself that I otherwise would not be able to without the hard work and advancement. The third is to leave my children something to make their lives more comfortable when I am gone. In my life I will have paid the taxes I legally owe on every cent of income. The rest should be mine to do with as I please. If that includes leaving something to my children, so be it. It is wrong that the government comes to my family when I am gone and takes from them something that they already got a piece of. Why are my children less deserving of my fortune than complete strangers?

Yes, conservatives want people to take responsibility for their lives and attempt to succeed on their own. As the Declaration of Independence says, all men are created equal. They are all endowed with the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Perhaps more people should pay attention to the wording there. The right is to the pursuit, not to happiness. There is more opportunity in this country than any other place on the planet for a person to be born, grow up and pursue their happiness. Inherent to that, however, is the chance to fail. Failure, however, does not damn a person to a fate. They may choose to start over again.

Shut the f'uck up about the ignorant redneck and his tin foil hat and let's get back to the fact that George Steinbrenner was terrible for baseball, and that his legacy will be with us for generations to come.
#34 Jul 13 2010 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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#35 Jul 13 2010 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kaelesh wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
If you cared about people you wouldn't have the govn employ forced slavery on the populace.


What the ***?


Taxes, I assume. Never mind the Constitution.

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#36 Jul 13 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Amazing isn't it how so many free-market conservatives turn communist when it comes to their sports?

Regardless of how people feel about George Steinbrenner, he was a stunning success. He bought the franchise from CBS in 1973 for 8.7 million dollars (with a cash outlay of only $100,000), and today that franchise, and the television network it spawned are worth almost 2.5 Billion dollars. Throw seven World Series titles and eleven American League Championships into the mix, right on top of the scorn of lesser peoples, and I'm sure he'd be laughing all the way to the bank, the Hall of Fame, and a legacy of pursuing excellence that will last far, far beyond the criticisms (well deserved or not) of his detractors.

What most people do not know is that George Steinbrenner was an extraordinarily generous and compassionate man. He was hot-tempered and made plenty of mistakes (most of which were blown out of proportion by the press). He was also able and willing to admit when he was wrong, apologize very sincerely for it, and make amends to all that he had wronged. Hell, if Dave Winfield can forgive him, and carry on an amicable relationship with the man after what Steinbrenner did to him, then who are any of us to judge the man harshly?

Steinbrenner kept many of the people that he "fired" from the organization on the payroll. They were usually labeled "scouts", and though they had no duties, continued to receive their salaries. He also put dozens (if not more) of his employees' children through college, paid hospital bills out of his own pocket, and affected the lives of countless people in very positive ways. And he did so without ever seeking any attention or credit for it, indeed he made it a point to keep such things quiet.

I've been a Yankees fan since I moved to New York in April of 1970, when I was eight years old. Even though the Mets had just won the World Series, I chose to become a Yankees fan. Even at that age I was aware of the mystique of the team (at the time I also believed that you were required to be a fan of the local team, no matter who they were... a very beneficial, if misguided, conviction for a kid from Philadelphia). Since he bought the team, I have booed him when he did stupid stuff, cheered when made great moves, and literally jumped with joy the first time, (under his ownership) the Yankees made it into the post season. He blustered a lot, interfered many times when he should have stepped aside, and got banned from the game twice. But through all of that there was never, ever, even the slightest hint that he wanted to do anything besides win. In that regard, every owner of a sports franchise should emulate him. He reinvested the money he made with the Yankees into the Yankees. He never once took the profits, pocketed them and then cut payroll and sold off his star players the way so many other franchises have done.

Whether you love him, hate him or are utterly indifferent, there will never be another like him(I'm sure that idea delights the small-minded amongst you).
#37 Jul 13 2010 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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George Steinbrenner was terrible for baseball, and that his legacy will be with us for generations to come.


Preach!

My thoughts are: he was bad for baseball & for a long time, bad for the Yankees. He was great for the Yankees once they started winning World Series' though & good for the city of NY.

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I'm surprised no one else has mentioned the possibility. I can't believe no one would think someone worth nearly 1 billion might fake his own death to save his family hundreds of millions and possibly the ownership of the Yankees.


Ya, I heard what Rush had to say about it too, you fucking hillbilly parrot.

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With the death of legendary New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner today, Limbaugh had what he must have thought was the perfect opportunity to open his show with a little good old-fashioned race-baiting, saying that Steinbrenner -- "that cracker," as Limbaugh called him -- "made a lot of African-American millionaires." Limbaugh later stated that Steinbrenner "knew when to die," because there is currently no estate tax.


But he never implied that Steinbrenner faked his death. That's right Varrus, you're crazier than Rush, albeit just as racist.

Edited, Jul 14th 2010 4:51am by Omegavegeta
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#38 Jul 14 2010 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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But he never implied that Steinbrenner faked his death.


Nope, came up with that on my own.


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Indicted on 14 criminal counts on April 5, 1974, the owner of the New York Yankees plead guilty to obstruction of justice and conspiring to make illegal contributions to President Richard Nixon's re-election campaign. Steinbrenner, a major Republican donor, allegedly knew the money he was donating was not going through regular election procedures. Not wanting to appear soft on crime, President Ronald Reagan would only pardon Steinbrenner if the Yankees' owner admitted to the crime.


Now the question remains would this person fake his own death to save his family nearly 500million and ownership of the Yankees?




p.s. How does being a bigotted racist feel? I wouldn't know. My facebook page is much more diverse than yours Smiley: grin




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#39 Jul 14 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
knoxxsouthy wrote:
My facebook page is much more diverse than yours Smiley: grin


Reevaluate your self worth Omega.
#40 Jul 14 2010 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
The problem with faking your own death is you can't really go, in a couple of years, "hey! I'm alive, really!" without getting nailed for fraud.
#41 Jul 14 2010 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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The problem with faking your own death is you can't really go, in a couple of years, "hey! I'm alive, really!" without getting nailed for fraud.
He could always lay low until he finally did die. It might not be terribly enjoyable for him (or maybe it would, i don't know), but it would clearly be better than having the government take 500 million dollars from his family after he died.

Not that i think he actually faked his death, just saying it would be a pretty logical thing to do.
#42 Jul 15 2010 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
Princess,

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He could always lay low until he finally did die. It might not be terribly enjoyable for him (or maybe it would, i don't know), but it would clearly be better than having the government take 500 million dollars from his family after he died.


Yeah spending the last couple of years of his life, assuming he is actually dying, on board a 100 million dollar yacht would be such a burden.

#43 Jul 15 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Yeah spending the last couple of years of his life, assuming he is actually dying, on board a 100 million dollar yacht would be such a burden.


Real discreet.

Do you even listen to yourself anymore?
#44 Jul 15 2010 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been here a long time, but I've never seen any thread degenerate to such abysmal levels of stupidity before.
#45 Jul 15 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Yeah spending the last couple of years of his life, assuming he is actually dying, on board a 100 million dollar yacht would be such a burden.
Probably not, but there would still be tons of things he couldn't do.
#46 Jul 19 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Now the question remains would this person fake his own death to save his family nearly 500million and ownership of the Yankees?


If we're going to throw wild speculation about his death in the context of the zero inheritance tax, why assume he'd fake his own death and not that the family might off him? Seems like a more likely scenario... if we're speculating of course!
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