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#1 Jul 09 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
Would you continue to post here if you were required to use your real full name to do so? If yes, where would the boundary be? What is the line for you where personally identifiable information is concerned?

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Recently, we introduced our new Real ID feature - http://www.battle.net/realid/ , a new way to stay connected with your friends on the new Battle.net. Today, we wanted to give you a heads up about our plans for Real ID on our official forums, discuss the design philosophy behind the changes we’re making, and give you a first look at some of the new features we’re adding to the forums to help improve the quality of conversations and make the forums an even more enjoyable place for players to visit.

The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. The classic Battle.net forums, including those for Diablo II and Warcraft III, will be moving to a new legacy forum section with the release of the StarCraft II community site and at that time will also transition to using Real ID for posting.

The official forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players -- however, the forums have also earned a reputation as a place where flame wars, trolling, and other unpleasantness run wild. Removing the veil of anonymity typical to online dialogue will contribute to a more positive forum environment, promote constructive conversations, and connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before. With this change, you’ll see blue posters (i.e. Blizzard employees) posting by their real first and last names on our forums as well.
#2 Jul 09 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
Fuck no.
#3 Jul 09 2010 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I doubt it's going to have the effect they think it'll have. My guess is that many of the forum trolls on the Blizzard servers are young men - late adolescent up to their early 20s, at a guess. As a group, their impulse control is not the best. Their judgment and ability to gauge negative consequences are not fully developed. They're not going to care that someone they don't know, knows their names.

Look at how Facebook is used by its target demographic. Kids, including college students, put all kinds of personal information out there with no thought to consequences.

I wouldn't post on Blizzard's forum if my full name were revealed. If I did, I'd conceal my character name to avoid harassment in-game, because my name is clearly feminine.

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#4 Jul 09 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know. Part of me says "Hell no" but, looking back on it, I used to post thousands of posts to Usenet groups under my real name. Some on game oriented groups like the Magic: the Gathering and some on places like alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die which had the same sort of tardbags you find on forums today. Never worried or phased me for a moment.

On the other hand, it is a hell of a lot easier to dig stuff up on a person across the country today than it was back in 1994.
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#5 Jul 09 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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#6 Jul 09 2010 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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I probably wouldn't post here if my real name was required and publicly available.

My facebook has my real name, but I've been pretty picky about who I friend. When I post comments to our local paper it uses my real name. I do feel weird sometimes having my name on those comments but at the same time it does cause me to double-check my diplomacy before hitting the send button.

Presumably you could make your WoW account under a false name that would then be used for forum-trolling.

I honestly don't know why Blizzard wants to do this. Seems like opening pandora's box or at the least a can-o-worms.
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#7 Jul 09 2010 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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It is very easy to be listed as something other than your current real name anyway so I doubt such a rule would have significant impact personally, but I disagree with the spirit of the rule as well as with the potential shenanigans you could do with said information.

It's very easy to track someone down in person with the internet these days, so providing that information to millions of people is pretty retarded.
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#8 Jul 09 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Sick and I were talking about this the other night. Blizzard may think this is a great idea, but it's going to open up more cans of worms than I think they expect.

Hell no would I post anywhere that gave my full name out. Even the local mother site where we meet up face to face, we have usernames and do not provide our full names unless we choose to. For one thing, no matter how well moderated forum boards can be, people can take offense to things and take it off the board. Anything off the board is unmoderated. As a manager I have watched personal conflicts escalate from a minor infraction on our board (which we have the authority to step in and help resolve, and do)to massive hate fests outside of our jurisdiction that sucks other people in. In time people forget the slight infraction that caused the initial issue in the first place, but bad feelings fester in areas of the net mods can not control.On a much larger scale, such as Blizzard, having personal information such as full names can lead to people being stalked for a disagreement on the board, and in small extreme cases, even physical violence. Granted the majority of people using the forums would never dream of doing stuff like this. But for a gaming company to give that type of information freely to thousands of (lets face it, many immature) players in a public forum environment just screams for potential violent vendettas to occur. And that is something I would never wish to risk dealing with. How do I know that if I say something in innocence with no ill intent, I may inadvertently **** off the wrong person who is not mentally stable? Not worth it.

So if this goes through you have that angle to worry about. You also have the aspect of many people leaving the forums in droves because they don't feel comfortable posting with personal information out in the public. So while Blizzard may be trying to do this to stop trolling, in reality it has too many cons to make this idea work in their favor.
#9 Jul 09 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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Well, it seems the outcry on the WoW forums has changed their minds, at least for now.

Official blue post on the subject.
#10 Jul 09 2010 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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If I didn't have one of the most common first/last names on Earth I might be hesitant.

If one were to look up my first and last name they'd think I was a professional snowboarder, artist, or some guy running for Mayor of some town called Herriman, or the guy who played "Kevin" in "Hobgoblins 2."
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#11 Jul 09 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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If I didn't have one of the most common first/last names on Earth I might be hesitant.


Which doesn't mean ****. I research property and names for a living. Even a common name can be whittled down in a matter of minutes with supplementary info by eleminating factors like location, age, etc.
#12 Jul 09 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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No, no, and Hell No.



I don't hide behind a nom de plume in order to be a nasty troll (usually). But I need the privacy to say things I would be to shy to say face to face in RL, to say things I wouldn't want many of my relatives to come across, and to get around lingering social phobia problems about both speaking and writing. My net name is my safe place.

It also stops stalker problems, but really, that's actually secondary to the daily service it provides.
#13 Jul 09 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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An emphatic "no" in regards to any of the Blizzard forums.

As far as the Asylum? Most of the regulars know (or knew and forgot) my real name from Allanois, so I'd at least consider it.
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Kuwoobie wrote:
If I didn't have one of the most common first/last names on Earth I might be hesitant.

If one were to look up my first and last name they'd think I was a professional snowboarder, artist, or some guy running for Mayor of some town called Herriman, or the guy who played "Kevin" in "Hobgoblins 2."


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#15 Jul 09 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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How am I supposed to pass myself off as a RL chick in the game if people see my real name on the forums?
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#16 Jul 09 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Someone go sue blizzard for stealing our karma system!
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#17 Jul 09 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
How am I supposed to pass myself off as a RL chick in the game if people see my real name on the forums?
I'm still not sure......
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#18 Jul 09 2010 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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off topic: 7,777 post for Elinda.

Make a wish, or something.
#19 Jul 09 2010 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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My full name on my Blizzard account is "A B" because when I signed up however long ago, I didn't feel like putting in my real name (even though they have it from my credit card info anyway).

When they instituted RealID (an optional cross-game friends list that requires knowing your friend's e-mail address), I was going to change it to my actual name so it would show up properly for my friends. But the process to change it requires sending in scans of 2 forms of ID, and now with this news, I'm glad I didn't bother.

#20 Jul 09 2010 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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trickybeck wrote:
When they instituted RealID (an optional cross-game friends list that requires knowing your friend's e-mail address), I was going to change it to my actual name so it would show up properly for my friends. But the process to change it requires sending in scans of 2 forms of ID, and now with this news, I'm glad I didn't bother.

Now that they've changed their minds on it, will you bother? Personally I wouldn't, since this seems like a bit of a harbinger of things to come.
#21 Jul 09 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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off topic: 7,777 post for Elinda.

Make a wish, or something.
I wish to stay at 7,777 posts forever.
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#22 Jul 09 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Lady Bardalicious wrote:
off topic: 7,777 post for Elinda.

Make a wish, or something.
I wish to stay at 7,777 posts forever.
d'awwwwwwwww. :(
#23 Jul 09 2010 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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We've got a little thread about it in forum=268 as well. Pretty interesting subject.

All signs suggest to me that this wasn't really a maneuver designed to help with forum moderation, because Blizzard intended to include a method to opt-out of the Real ID system (it's currently the second blog post from the top). Obviously, if trolls could freely sidestep the system, then it really wouldn't have helped moderate at all.

The real reason, which I had been expecting, is alluded to here (from the source CountFenris linked):

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We believe that the powerful communications functionality enabled by Real ID, such as cross-game and cross-realm chat, make Battle.net a great place for players to stay connected to real-life friends and family while playing Blizzard games. And of course, you'll still be able to keep your relationships at the anonymous, character level if you so choose when you communicate with other players in game. Over time, we will continue to evolve Real ID on Battle.net to add new and exciting functionality within our games for players who decide to use the feature.


They were looking to bolster communication between games. Ultimately, I think they foresee their games linking to existing social media services (Facebook and the like).



Edited, Jul 9th 2010 3:15pm by Eske
#24 Jul 09 2010 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
Elinda wrote:
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off topic: 7,777 post for Elinda.

Make a wish, or something.
I wish to stay at 7,777 posts forever.

There was an easy way to make that happen but you went and f'ucked it all up.
#25 Jul 09 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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We've got a little thread about it in forum=268 as well.

Who the f'uck knows or cares what 268 is?!?
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Pretty interesting subject.

I doubt that seriously.
#26 Jul 09 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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Well, gullible duck that I am, I went to forum=268. There was NOTHING there. >.<
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