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#52 Jul 09 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you actually enjoy reading these posts I can't begin to express how sorry I feel for you.

It astounds me someone would actually treat this site like it's a movie.


What can I say? It's something to do at work, and highly entertaining.

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Do you even know what a radical Muslim is?


Here's a couple; http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RmvtiAvhIOM/SOygL7LSN_I/AAAAAAAAAXo/hv_GidEevVc/s320/ObamaMansour.jpg


So, no then?

I'm not sure which religious law you're referring to, and I am certainly not an obese liberal. I consider my 120 lbs to be rather average. Thanks for watching out for my health though.
#53 Jul 09 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I consider my 120 lbs to be rather average. Thanks for watching out for my health though.

Pfft. You would, fatty.
#54 Jul 09 2010 at 3:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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#55 Jul 09 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
Hmmm someone who sits in front of the computer all day eating popcorn; wherever would I get the idea you're a fatty. Smiley: rolleyes
#56 Jul 09 2010 at 3:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unbuttered popcorn is pretty low in calories. This is ignoring your retarded inability to understand a figure of speech.
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#57 Jul 09 2010 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

Oh sure it's a figure of speech when you're kissing someone news as*.

Smiley: laugh
#58 Jul 09 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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Oh sure it's a figure of speech when you're kissing someone news as*.

Smiley: laugh

I don't think it's ***-kissing, I think it's faith in anyone new's ability to be infinitely more intelligent and witty than you are.
#59 Jul 09 2010 at 4:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Oh sure it's a figure of speech when you're kissing someone news as*.

Smiley: laugh

I don't think it's ***-kissing, I think it's faith in anyone new's ability to be infinitely more intelligent and witty than you are.


Not that I don't think Rizz might be a nice addition around here, but come on... anyone is more intelligent and witty than varus.
#60gbaji, Posted: Jul 09 2010 at 5:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ignoring the foot-in-mouth disease running rampant in this thread...
#61 Jul 09 2010 at 5:17 PM Rating: Good
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It looks like you have absolutely no problem with imposing a religious law on an entire nation


Nor do you. Hey, but at least I don't mind letting people hang on to as much of the money that THEY earn.
Nice job of going from clueless to irrelevant at fucking warp 13.
#62 Jul 09 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
Buttercup and horseradish stew; serves four.
#63 Jul 09 2010 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Now if the federal government actually made it illegal for the states to define marriage differently and provide their own benefits based on that definition, they'd have a states rights case.

Since Massachusetts is responsible for administering some federal benefits, the government is saying "Here, give this to married people... but not the people you've defined as married because they don't count." Which is in infringement upon Massachusetts's right to determine for itself who is married and who isn't under the licenses issued by county governments under the ultimate authority of the state, not the federal government.

Neither of your examples are very good ones. Schools and highways don't qualify for grants simply be existing, they have to competitively apply for them and meet set criteria. Even two traditional schools may not equally meet the criteria set for a grant. It may be a violation if your state recognized and licensed video game school wasn't allowed to apply for a grant but until that happens, it's not worth side tracking on. Likewise, a road project grant will specifically state that it's for a roadway with vehicle traffic of X many cars per day, etc. If your cow path qualifies then great. If not, the issue wasn't that you planted a "Gbaji's Highway" sign next to it. Spousal benefits are not competitive -- you don't have to apply against a thousand other widows/widowers for a piece of your deceased spouse's pension. You get them by virtue of being married something which, again, has been left to the states to decide the criteria for (which varies beyond gender; states have differing legal marrying ages and rules for marrying first cousins, for instance).

Now, before you jump ahead of yourself, the argument for universal recognition of gay marriage is one rooted in the idea that the Constitution provides for it. If the Supreme Court found that to be true, it would override any determination that the individual states may have made since the Constitution is ultimately the principle document governing the nation.
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#64gbaji, Posted: Jul 09 2010 at 8:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Um... Then by all means, get your Democrats who control congress to write an amendment to the constitution defining marriage how they wish. Or heck! Just get them to repeal DOMA (something they talk about, but don't seem interested in actually doing). It's easy to say "things should be that way", but there are processes in our system for making them that way if your "side" really wants to do so. But they don't. They just want the political ammunition they gain by playing as though they're the good guys and the other side is "evil".
#65 Jul 09 2010 at 8:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Gbaji, you can spam walls of text all you like, but in the end, the federal judge (and this is just the first; there will be more) has ruled against your convoluted and contradictory beliefs.
#66 Jul 09 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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No. They're saying "give this to married people, and here's the definition of 'married'". In the exact same way they say "use this to build interstates, and here's the definition of 'interstate'"...

Nope. Really, I explained it last time so I won't even waste the keystrokes again. You're just wrong.

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remember, you made the whole "states rights" claim, not me

If by "me" you mean "the judge"...? I'm not a judge and didn't preside over this case but I'm flattered that you think so well of me.

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If my state only allows set X to gain some benefits, but your state allows sets X, Y, and Z to qualify and the federal government funds each identically (from all of our taxes), aren't I getting ripped off?

No more than you were ten seconds earlier when some states allowed first cousins to marry and some states allowed sixteen year olds to marry under different criteria than other states. Funny that you never cried about that and that's been going on for decades and decades.

Not really, of course. You were never fed the line that you're supposed to care.

Edited, Jul 9th 2010 10:40pm by Jophiel
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#67 Jul 09 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
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#68 Jul 11 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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