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Zero, yes. Luckily that wasn't my point or else you might have something there.


No such statistics, huh? I don't know about "no lasting impact" whatsoever, but certainly not the mental impairment you're implying. A quick Google search turns up dozens of studies, plenty of which support the idea that long-term, consistent marijuana usage is not significantly more harmful to your mental or physical health than ordinary drinking or smoking - i.e., smoking marijuana every day will not turn you into a some mindless zombie.


Some of those aging cigarette smokers ain't too hot to look at, either. If we legislated on that basis though, we'd have to kick you Californians out of the Union.

The heavy intake of any burned plant material into one's lungs over a significant period of time isn't good for you, there's no disputing it. The problem with finding out *just* how harmful is difficult as pot smokers tend to also smoke cigarettes. However, I've known very few people who smoke as much pot as they smoke cigarettes.

I smoke both. I smoke a pack of cigarettes every two-three days & about an 1/8th of pot a week (that'd be about 60 cigarettes a week to 4-5 joints). I smoke after work (I'm an overnight vampire, so that's at about 8-9am) which also happens to be before bed. I honestly don't drink all that much, on a good night I might drink a 6 pack nowadays & if I've smoked I tend to drink even less (as pot enhances the effect of alcohol).

Am I healthier than an alcoholic? My liver is, but doubt my lungs are. Am I healthier than just a person who smokes cigarettes?

Well, actually, I may be, as the THC in pot has anti-carcinogenic properties. And while you might call me stupid for smoking cigarettes, the nicotine actually makes me smarter.

In conclusion, children; everything in moderation.

E-cigarettes - as much or as little nicotine as you want, none of the burning plant crap.

Some != Most

So it's ok that you're wrong...


Edited, Jul 9th 2010 3:24pm by Almalieque

I've never understood what's meant by gateway drug, unless you mean beer, which makes everything seem like a great idea.

I just love all folks like Alma get all bent out of shape over anyone using drugs that are "Illegal" like in this tread.

There is a huge difference between taking a mind altering substance responsibly and causing harm to self or others.

Most drugs base on organic compounds have been used through out history for religious purposes. Nothing is wrong in seeking a way to expand ones mind when you know what your doing.

The problem is when you start to do any substance to self medicate.

I'm one of the lucky few, who while knowing I suffer from a mental illness (depression) never tried to self medicate with drugs or alcohol.

I was a social pot smoker in my teens to early twenties, and stop when I had children who I felt were far more important then getting high at a party with friends. I also at the same time stopped drinking more then one beer or glass of wine before their bedtime. These days I may have an occasional stout or ale with a meal, but nothing more. I can no longer drink wine due to sulfites. Hard liquor and my stomach don't get along much but for a drop of gin in my tonic water, just enough for the taste.

These days I meditate to expand my mind, but if I knew and trusted a train shaman, I would love to try mushrooms or other natural ways to experience more. They would have to have good knowledge of what medications are not safe to take.

The one thing, I learn is aways be honest with anyone about your health and any drugs you are currently taking.

I no long do sweats, due to the drugs I take for various illnesses. I loved being able to do sweats for a few years before my blood pressure went up. Darn right now I can't even handle the heat way we been having, so hide during the day in the one room I am able to keep cool in.

Don't expect to me respond to any of your posts for a few days. I only got online this morning due to insomnia.

While I disagree with Alma here, this statement is as idiotic as most of the things he's said.

It's funny when people rail against meth as the evil of evils when you can get it prescribed.

That's untrue, I'm afraid; if he agrees with you he will be very, very uncool.

Oh totally, because doctors are just infallible.

I stated that there wouldn't be a drug problem, not a magical solution for perfection.



What exactly do you disagree with? I'm willing to bet that you only disagree on a few things and agree or don't disagree with the rest.



That's what I thought you meant. I don't ever recall doing that, if I did that was obviously a mistake.

Actually, that's also false since many prescription drugs are dangerous, over-prescribed (pushed) or both.

Hell. I like to smoke pot (though I've been clean for a year) and I also occasionally pop a vicodin with a shot of whiskey. Might not be strictly safe but, "occasionally" being once every other month or so, I'm no House.

I will reply to your message with your own reply

Yeah, I realize what you said, ******. It's just so incredibly ******* stupid, is all.

The percentage of errors from doctor prescriptions will not cause a "drug problem" relevant to our current drug problem and only a complete idiot would think so.



Prescription drugs simply being dangerous isn't the problem if it is prescribed and used correctly.

As stated above, the percentage of over-prescribed drugs that happen in the world would not create a drug problem relevantly speaking to our current drug problem....

If you really need for me to break it down for you, I will.



You didn't answer the question. What exactly do you disagree with particularly in this thread. My point I'm trying to show you is that you probably can't list anything. You're just calling me a moron because that's what everyone else is doing and there is no substance to back it up.

So, if you truly disagree with "everything", lets start by listing things in this thread.

I speak "self-assuring" because I tend to only argue about what I'm sure about. If I don't know, I will say that I'm not sure. If I'm wrong, I will admit that I'm wrong. Unlike the most of you, I realize that being wrong is a part of being right and a part of reality.