Aethien wrote:
Why? There will be more people who consider it stupid but that doesn't make it any more or less subjective.
You're right, it's not a popularity contest. It's based on the level of being dangerous. The average person would call most things "stupid" for being dangerous, but in reality, there are usually safety controls put in place.
Aethien wrote:
I agree with that, it's why driving while drunk is punished, being drunk however is not.
And I consider education to have an important part of this, people should know the effects and consequences of what they want to do before they do so.
When what they want to do endangers other people (like driving while under influence) there should be a law to stop them, when what they want to do endangers themselves and doesn't directly endanger other people (like being drunk or high) I see no point in having a law to stop it.
As I stated before, I don't buy the "gateway drug" argument, so In my opinion, getting high or drunk off of "safe" (meaning wont kill you after one usage, i.e. Extacy or causes sever damage or addictiveness) shouldn't be banned either. I only think the "hard drugs" that do have those types of effects should be banned.
Aethien wrote:
And what is that opinion? You haven't really said anything but "Its stupid" and ask for explanations.
Almalieque at least three times wrote:
Purposely putting yourself in a state where you are hallucinating things isn't too high on the "smart scale"
You taking "drugs" isn't what's "stupid", it's the fact that you want to hallucinate and not be in the right state of mind.
Aethien wrote:
If properly educated about the consequences I think that people should be allowed to hurt themselves as much as they want to as long as they do what is needed to prevent other people from getting hurt in the process.
Which would include not driving and/or having someone to watch you during your experience.
This would apply for the "gateway drugs" or drugs with no real harm. I'm sorry, but the reality is, no one wants to walk down the street and see crack heads, drunkards and people high off meth walking around. This has a domino effect in the community and as a result will always have a public interest. I would bet that this is part of the reason there are laws about public drunkenness or drinking in the streets.
As I stated above though, for the sake of this discussion, we have segregate the "no harm" drugs from the "harmful" drugs. You can't refer to the former, but simply state "drugs".
If you're simply referring to the "no harm" drugs, then I still think it's silly but I wouldn't object to your statements. If you're including drugs like meth, then I do object.
Aethien wrote:
I don't consider wanting to experience a high stupid.
Doing it uneducated and without proper preparations, yes.
In the case of Russian Roulette, I can't think of proper preparations to take to prevent others getting hurt because someone would have to clean up the mess.
The same goes for Chicken, to some extend.
Running as close as you dare in front of a driving car would be a case of Chicken that I can't see any measures against against harming or endangering others in the process.
You still haven't said anything more than that you think it's stupid. Which is cool, don't do it then but I don't see why this means others shouldn't be allowed to do it if they wish to do so.
I've given my reasons multiple times. You're just expecting for a non-existing counter. The most objective counter to the usage of drugs is the percentage of harm to your body, if you dismiss that, then there's nothing else to say, which is cool, but don't pretend like I didn't say anything. If you seriously think that your curiosity outweighs stupidity, then fine, but that's not reality.
BT wrote:
Also, risky behavior or placing oneself in "compromising positions" isn't necessarily "stupid", it just means you're not a huge ******* ***** all the time.
Actually there is a point where it is just stupid. Don't fool yourself with the "Ask any question because there is no dumb question" mentality. There are dumb questions just as there stupid activities in dealing with drugs, i.e. taking them.