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#177 Jul 08 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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So I guess you couldn't find anyone with half the qualifications ready to put their reputation on the line by supporting the man made global warming myth.

Of course I could. I could start Googling bios of people working for NASA or NOAA or whoever and turn someone up without much work.

Why? If I do so, will you change your opinion about anything?

Academic debates have never caused anyone to change their views; they are only a method for those involved to become further entrenched in their own disparate ideas.


That's not really true, though, is it?

I don't know; it's actually a line from a book that occurred to me when I saw Joph's post. In the book, it was in reference to an in-fighting English department of an obscure state college.
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#178 Jul 09 2010 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Obfuscation will get you everywhere, just look at Obama.


The simple fact is you won't find anyone more qualified than this guy and even he doesn't believe what you're selling.





Edited, Jul 9th 2010 9:54am by knoxxsouthy
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#179 Jul 09 2010 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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The simple fact is you won't find anyone more qualified than this guy and even he doesn't believe what you're selling.

You didn't answer my question. If I find someone equally qualified who thinks ACC is real, will you change your opinion?
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#180 Jul 09 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Obfuscation
Edited, Jul 9th 2010 9:54am by knoxxsouthy

I just want to know how many times you had to ctrl+tab back to dictionary.com before you spelled that right.
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#181 Jul 09 2010 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
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Obfuscation
Edited, Jul 9th 2010 9:54am by knoxxsouthy

I just want to know how many times you had to ctrl+tab back to dictionary.com before you spelled that right.

My guess is three times, after looking up the definition of course.
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#182 Jul 09 2010 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Debo,

Are you trying to sound intelligent? It doesn't suit you.
Smiley: laugh
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#183 Jul 09 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Moe,

And looking up the correct spelling of a word someone might not know makes them less intelligent? Are you really saying this?

Go back to comparing a couple of angry blacks standing in front of a voting center to an official shooting a man in the back while he's running away.

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#184 Jul 09 2010 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Moe,

And looking up the correct spelling of a word someone might not know makes them less intelligent? Are you really saying this?

Nope. I don't think you know how to tie your shoes. You are less intelligent and many things are indicative of that. But looking something up doesn't make you less intelligent.

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Go back to comparing a couple of angry blacks standing in front of a voting center to an official shooting a man in the back while he's running away.

Case in point. I wasn't aware the kid was running away.
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#185 Jul 09 2010 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Moe,


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Well then it's a good thing my shoes don't have shoe-strings. Smiley: lol


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#186 Jul 09 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote=knoxxsouthyit's a good thing my shoes don't have shoe-strings. Smiley: lol[/quote]
I find that 100% believable. I stopped wearing kangaroos when I was 4 though, so you might not want to brag.
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#187 Jul 09 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dude's gotta have a place for his lunch money...
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#188 Jul 09 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:


knoxxsouthy wrote:
Go back to comparing a couple of angry blacks standing in front of a voting center to an official shooting a man in the back while he's running away.

Case in point. I wasn't aware the kid was running away.


He wasn't. He was on the ground.

I'm not sure why BART "police" have guns, anyway. They're not part of the city police force.

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#189 Jul 09 2010 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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When you take away the BART's guns, only unarmed men lying on a subway platform will have guns.
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#190 Jul 09 2010 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Go back to comparing a couple of angry blacks standing in front of a voting center to an official shooting a man in the back while he's running away.

Case in point. I wasn't aware the kid was running away.


He wasn't. He was on the ground.

Not only was he lying on the ground, the story I read had another officer kneeling on his back.
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#191 Jul 09 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah. I'm not sure why Mehserle felt the need to Tase him, even. But I wasn't there.

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Looking at this Mehserle case and the recent Seattle cop incident, I have to say I'd hate being a cop in this day and age (not that I ever wanted to be one in the first place).

It's bad enough what they have to face on a daily basis, but now dealing with people while a bevy of onlookers watch with their camera phones out? I like the aspect of this being a way for citizens to possibly curtail abuse of power or corruption by the police force, but I don't think the cops needs this kind of additional stress on their jobs.

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#193 Jul 09 2010 at 12:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, God forbid anyone hold cops accountable for misbehavior.

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#194 Jul 09 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, God forbid anyone hold cops accountable for misbehavior.


/sigh

You think it's OK to always have cameras in a cop's face as they do their job? Would you like that?
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#195 Jul 09 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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You think it's OK to always have cameras in a cop's face as they do their job? Would you like that?


Yes. At all times.

And more than a few States agree which is why so many patrol cars have cameras in them.
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#196 Jul 09 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can sympathize somewhat. While a later investigation may prove an officer acted appropriately, the clipped up million hit YouTube video of a cop "beating up an innocent skateboarder" or whatever only serves as a distraction and puts additional stress on what's already a very stressful job.

I have no idea where the middle ground is though nor any Pollyanna hopes that it'd be respected by those with an agenda.
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#197 Jul 09 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, God forbid anyone hold cops accountable for misbehavior.


/sigh

You think it's OK to always have cameras in a cop's face as they do their job? Would you like that?


Wake up, Sparky. You pretty much do always have a camera in your face.

I think if your job entails carrying firearms and arresting people, then sure, some randomized oversight of potential abuse is probably not a bad thing.

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#198 Jul 09 2010 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
I can sympathize somewhat. While a later investigation may prove an officer acted appropriately, the clipped up million hit YouTube video of a cop "beating up an innocent skateboarder" or whatever only serves as a distraction and puts additional stress on what's already a very stressful job.

I have no idea where the middle ground is though nor any Pollyanna hopes that it'd be respected by those with an agenda.


This is all I was saying.

And the scrutiny by people during an already tense situation may actually escalate matters, rather than necessarily facilitate everyone to be on their best behavior.
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#199 Jul 09 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
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Samira wrote:

Yeah, God forbid anyone hold cops accountable for misbehavior.



/sigh

You think it's OK to always have cameras in a cop's face as they do their job? Would you like that?



Wake up, Sparky. You pretty much do always have a camera in your face.

I think if your job entails carrying firearms and arresting people, then sure, some randomized oversight of potential abuse is probably not a bad thing.


Congrats on not answering my question. I'll take that as a "No, I wouldn't."
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#200 Jul 09 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Which question? No one likes constant scrutiny, except possibly Lindsay Lohan. I answered the first question, I think.

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It's not about liking it, nitwit. We submit to things we don't like every day because it's necessary. If I were a cop I'd sure as hell expect there to be cameras watching me, particularly as those people have every right to record the incident. Yeah, it sucks when you get some Youtube clip taken out of context. That's no reason to remove that layer of oversight though.
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