T-Nip wrote:
They were trolling you, so you are the [original] victim. You were then muted, the [first] victim, on your own thread.
As stated before, I'm not a "victim". Posters responses are very predictable, that is why I post. I post knowing that you will respond a certain way in order for me to have fun. Your trolling is done with the same intent, hoping that I will respond in a certain way. So, if I'm a "victim", then likewise, you are a "victim".
Here's a metaphor:
You state that you're living "Pay-check to pay-check" and need to find something to do to get a little cash. I know that you're thievish, but at the same time has too much pride to ask for money. As a result, I purposely leave out a few dollars on my desk knowing that you will steal it. You steal the money and pay off some bills.
I'm not a victim in this situation because I purposely placed myself in that situation and allowed you to steal from me for my own personal goal.
T-Nip wrote:
Personally, if I was trolling someone, on a thread they started, and they, not I, were to get muted, I would consider that a win. And honestly, I'm not trying to troll you, but you seem like you either a) are acting like you don't understand this / this isn't what happened / this isn't logical\doesn't make sense, or b) you're actually dumb enough to not realize how/think the 'trollers' should be enjoying the fact that you got muted. I'm leaning towards a.
I'm not denying the fact that I got muted is a win, I even stated that in the previous post that it was a "bonus", but that is exactly what it is, a bonus. It was not the intent and I'm smart enough to realize that.
T-Nip wrote:
Edit: Also, I don't think it matters weather or not you can troll someone who is muted. That was never debated. However, you were trolled and as an eventuality of that you were muted. This would be considered an effect of you getting trolled; you couldn't post because the troll, thus you were in the process of being trolled the entire 24 hours.
Simply put, your goal can not be to troll and have me muted simultaneously.
I was not "trolled for 24hrs". There weren't any trolling done after I got muted, the thread effectively died. Then all of the sudden, when I come back, people started posting again, i.e. you. This completely supports my claim that your intention was not to mute me, but to ridicule me in attempt to make myself look foolish.
If it had been any trolling, it would have been because they knew I was going to come back within 24 hours, which supports the desire of me NOT being muted. Otherwise, why don't you make up a fictitious person and just troll him/her for your heart's desire?!?!?!
It has been well established that I only respond to other posts, so if you don't want me talking, then you would simply stop replying to me. But people don't, because that's not what they want. The fact that I got muted is just a funny bonus that just so happened. It was never the original intent, because if you didn't want me talking, then you wouldn't attempt to troll me.
T-Nip wrote:
Here's a metaphor.
A bully punches a kid at school. All the other kids see. The kid who was punched wasn't hurt by the blow, but all the other students saw and made fun of him. The bully intended to hurt the kid, but didn't. Instead he caused the kid to get ridiculed by his schoolmates. The bully is still successful because he caused the kid some form of unhappiness (ignoring the unhappiness associated with being punched), even though his original goal of causing the kid physical pain was unsuccessful.
You are the kid who got punched.
The trollers are the bully.
Everyone else are the kids making fun of you (the kid who got punched).
You getting muted represents the kids laughing at the bullied kid.
Here's a metaphor
Kid A in school has been having conflicts with kid B in school. Kid A knows that Kid B has aggressive behavior and loves attention. Kid A knows that if he were to walk up to him in the court yard during lunch that Kid B would make a scene and try to hit him with a left hook. Kid A has been looking for a fight, but he doesn't want to start it because he would get in more trouble, so it's best to allow Kid B to start the fight in front of everyone so he can deal damage by "defending" himself.
Kid A walks up to Kid B and sure enough he does exactly what he anticipated. He gathered a big crowd and swung a left hook. Kid A, predicting his move, dodges it and round house kicks kid B in the face. As kid B falls down, his right leg accidentally bumps up against Kid A's leg while he's in the air, causing him to stumble down, falling on his butt.
I'm Kid A who predicted your movements, lead you into attacking me and roundhouse kicked you in the face who later just so happen to fall down, but got back up.
The trollers are Kid B who got kicked in the face but wants to focus on the fact that kid A fell on his butt in order to bypass their own embarrassment.