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(1) Blame Bush
(2) Sell Cap and Trade
(3) Raise Everyone's taxes.
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Posting to claim first ratedown.
A guildmate of mine took the time to share a fantastic joke with us today:
BP can solve the problem by using a ring. Once the pipe is married, it'll stop putting out.
Posting to claim first ratedown.
A guildmate of mine took the time to share a fantastic joke with us today:
BP can solve the problem by using a ring. Once the pipe is married, it'll stop putting out.
They should plug up the hole with Sarah Palin.
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
ThiefX's plan for rebutting Obama's speech:
1) Blame liberals
2) Claim that the millions of gallons of crude are good for wildlife
3) A flat tax of 0%
1) Blame liberals
2) Claim that the millions of gallons of crude are good for wildlife
3) A flat tax of 0%
Not once does that link mention Bush...or cap and trade...or taxes...
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You're an idiot..
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
paulsol wrote:
They should plug up the hole with Sarah Palin.
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
I was confused for a moment, since I thought this thread was from varus.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
paulsol wrote:
They should plug up the hole with Sarah Palin.
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
(The hole in the Gulf, I mean. Not the one in between ThiefX ears. Would need a lot more than one vacuous bint from Alaska for that amount of empty space).
I was confused for a moment, since I thought this thread was from varus.
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#8gbaji,
Posted: Jun 15 2010 at 12:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's also not a transcript of the speech. He's going to talk about what went wrong at MMS and other regulatory failures leading up to the disaster. How much do you want to bet that somewhere in his speech (perhaps multiple somewheres) will be a reference to failures in the "last ten years" or "last decade" or "previous administration"?
How about, instead of analyzing his speech based on what you think it will contain, you actually wait until he gives it instead of making assumptions that make it sound like you think he's trying to persecute everything you hold dear?
They should make Rob Green (England Goalkeeper) CEO of BP.
He's an expert in things that slip out unexpectedly and he has a track record of making things better for USA.
Sorted.
He's an expert in things that slip out unexpectedly and he has a track record of making things better for USA.
Sorted.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Sometimes, I almost feel sorry for gbaji, because he has to defend Theifx and Varrus. Sometimes to the point where he has to convince them that they meant something completely different from what they said.
Lord Nobby wrote:
They should make Rob Green (England Goalkeeper) CEO of BP.
He's an expert in things that slip out unexpectedly and he has a track record of making things better for USA.
Sorted.
He's an expert in things that slip out unexpectedly and he has a track record of making things better for USA.
Sorted.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Sometimes, I almost feel sorry for gbaji, because he has to defend Theifx and Varrus. Sometimes to the point where he has to convince them that they meant something completely different from what they said.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Sometimes, I almost feel sorry for gbaji, because he has to defend Theifx and Varrus. Sometimes to the point where he has to convince them that they meant something completely different from what they said.
It is.
#15gbaji,
Posted: Jun 15 2010 at 1:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's called making a prediction. So that after the speech, when we say "told you so", it has some actual weight. Way too many liberals seem to live in a la-la land in which they've bought the whole kool-aide line from their politicians, so we conservatives like to point out exactly how the politicians are going to ***** us before it happens. Hopefully it will eventually sink in to the masses that maybe we really do understand what's happening better than they do.
#16gbaji,
Posted: Jun 15 2010 at 1:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't defend ThiefX or Varrus. I defend conservative political positions. Sometimes, what they're saying is in alignment with those positions, and sometimes they are not.
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He's going to raise our taxes whether this disaster happened or not, but I'm sure there'll be language about how we'll all have to "work together" and "sacrifice for a better tomorrow" or some other crap which is liberalspeak for "pay for all the stuff we want to do". So yeah. Taxes, but that was somewhat inevitable...
Sounds just like a corporate CEO before a round of layoffs. Whoda thunk that CEOs were raving liberals.
Technogeek wrote:
Quote:
He's going to raise our taxes whether this disaster happened or not, but I'm sure there'll be language about how we'll all have to "work together" and "sacrifice for a better tomorrow" or some other crap which is liberalspeak for "pay for all the stuff we want to do". So yeah. Taxes, but that was somewhat inevitable...
Sounds just like a corporate CEO before a round of layoffs. Whoda thunk that CEOs were raving liberals.
Aside from the fact that I was talking about politics and you brought in business, that was a perfect analogy!
It's good that you got that this means that the person talking is going to ***** you though. That's progress at least...
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Technogeek wrote:
Quote:
He's going to raise our taxes whether this disaster happened or not, but I'm sure there'll be language about how we'll all have to "work together" and "sacrifice for a better tomorrow" or some other crap which is liberalspeak for "pay for all the stuff we want to do". So yeah. Taxes, but that was somewhat inevitable...
Sounds just like a corporate CEO before a round of layoffs. Whoda thunk that CEOs were raving liberals.
Aside from the fact that I was talking about politics and you brought in business, that was a perfect analogy!
It's good that you got that this means that the person talking is going to ***** you though. That's progress at least...
I've said before that all politicians are scum. The pubbies are just more sanctimonious about it.
gbaji wrote:
I don't defend ThiefX or Varrus.
That's kind of sad given the crush ThiefX has on you. How about showing a fellow Pubbie a little love?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Sometimes, I almost feel sorry for gbaji, because he has to defend Theifx and Varrus. Sometimes to the point where he has to convince them that they meant something completely different from what they said.
I don't defend ThiefX or Varrus. I defend conservative political positions. Sometimes, what they're saying is in alignment with those positions, and sometimes they are not.
Why would you defend conservative political positions, when you have a core principle that forces you to look at each issue and come up with your own logical opinions instead of just following a political line?
Technogeek wrote:
I've said before that all politicians are scum. The pubbies are just more sanctimonious about it.
And yet it was you who just compared President Obama to a CEO about to tell people he's going to lay them off. Did you mean to make that observation, or did it just kinda slip out accidentally?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Technogeek wrote:
I've said before that all politicians are scum. The pubbies are just more sanctimonious about it.
And yet it was you who just compared President Obama to a CEO about to tell people he's going to lay them off. Did you mean to make that observation, or did it just kinda slip out accidentally?
Actually, I was making fun of you calling it "liberalspeak". You don't really do reading comprehension much do you?
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Why would you defend conservative political positions, when you have a core principle that forces you to look at each issue and come up with your own logical opinions instead of just following a political line?
That's how conservative positions are derived. Those are the positions I defend. Yes, even if the person arriving at the position does so for the wrong reasons. If I've arrived at a position via that process, I'm not going to agree with someone attacking the position because someone else has a really dumb reason for holding it. Yet, that's often what ends out happening. And when that happens, I will disagree with said other persons dumb reasoning, but make it absolutely clear that the end position they're supporting is correct and give my reasons for it.
That doesn't mean I'm defending that person though. But I can totally understand why some would want to make that the focus of any discussion on the issue. It's easier to dismiss my positions and reasoning by arguing against everything else other than those things, so that's what most people do. Don't worry. I'm both amused by it, and quite used to it by now. I'd be shocked if one day the bulk of this board wasn't so predictable. ;)
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Technogeek wrote:
Actually, I was making fun of you calling it "liberalspeak". You don't really do reading comprehension much do you?
You did so poorly though. It's "liberalspeak" because when a liberal politician says those things, he means that he intends to raise taxes. It may be "CEOspeak" for laying people off, but I'm not sure how one counters the other.
I'll give you a hint in the political arena though. When a conservative politician says things like that, he's talking about cutting entitlement programs. You see how that's different and it's therefore legitimate to point out what the "liberalspeak" meaning is?
Edited, Jun 15th 2010 1:08pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Technogeek wrote:
Actually, I was making fun of you calling it "liberalspeak". You don't really do reading comprehension much do you?
You did so poorly though. It's "liberalspeak" because when a liberal politician says those things, he means that he intends to raise taxes. It may be "CEOspeak" for laying people off, but I'm not sure how one counters the other.
I'll give you a hint in the political arena though. When a conservative politician says things like that, he's talking about cutting entitlement programs. You see how that's different and it's therefore legitimate to point out what the "liberalspeak" meaning is?
Edited, Jun 15th 2010 1:08pm by gbaji
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