http://www.washingtonpost.com/?reload=true
So the Obama administration thought stealing money from the producers to support the non-producers was the best way to stimulate the economy. And Obama is praising this as a victory for his administration.
I wonder if you liberal democrats realize that without the census govn workers the US would have lost close to 500k jobs last month?
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The US census workers were an artificial gain to the job market. Ignoring that, and factoring in the people leaving the market there were about 20-25K jobs created, which is certainly lower then hoped. There was certainly no massive loss in jobs.
Edited, Jun 4th 2010 11:27am by Xsarus
Edited, Jun 4th 2010 11:27am by Xsarus
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Hey dumbfUck, usually folks link directly to the article they want to discuss rather than the entire publication. In any event, just by glancing at that page I can see that census hiring accounted for 411k out of 431k jobs added.
431k minus 411k does not equal negative 500k. This kind of math fail is probably why you still work for and live with your dad.
431k minus 411k does not equal negative 500k. This kind of math fail is probably why you still work for and live with your dad.
Xarus,
So the govn hires close to 400k and the private sector gains aprox 25k and you think jobs were created?
Turtle,
And this kind of statement is probably why you still let your dad shove it up your as*.
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Ignoring that, and factoring in the people leaving the market there were about 20-25K jobs created,
So the govn hires close to 400k and the private sector gains aprox 25k and you think jobs were created?
Turtle,
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This kind of math fail is probably why you still work for and live with your dad.
And this kind of statement is probably why you still let your dad shove it up your as*.
Varus has a good point -- we need to have a census every year so we can keep improving the job situation!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Xarus,
So the govn hires close to 400k and the private sector gains aprox 25k and you think jobs were created?
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Ignoring that, and factoring in the people leaving the market there were about 20-25K jobs created,
So the govn hires close to 400k and the private sector gains aprox 25k and you think jobs were created?
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Well, I'm convinced. How do I go about becoming a conservative?
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Well, I'm convinced. How do I go about becoming a conservative?
Donate. One day it could be your family.
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Jophed,
Why not every month? And let's be sure to pay them each 100k annually
Ugly,
You're right...we're talking about Obamanomics. And that is as far from conservative as you can get.
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Varus has a good point -- we need to have a census every year so we can keep improving the job situation!
Why not every month? And let's be sure to pay them each 100k annually
Ugly,
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What's going on in this thread has nothing to do with conservatism.
You're right...we're talking about Obamanomics. And that is as far from conservative as you can get.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why not every month? And let's be sure to pay them each 100k annually
I like it!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why not every month? And let's be sure to pay them each 100k annually
I like it!
And I just found a new job.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Why not every month? And let's be sure to pay them each 100k annually
I like it!
And I just found a new job.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
If the private sector would stop outsourcing our manufacturing jobs to China, we might have greater jobs gains stateside.
You can only have so many people working at McDs.
You can only have so many people working at McDs.
Cat,
It's not your job.
It's not your job.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Cat,
It's not your job.
It's not your job.
Well, of course not; catwho's a tenured prostitute.
Haha, only fooling, catwho, you're all right.
Edited, Jun 4th 2010 6:14pm by Kavekk
catwho wrote:
If the private sector would stop outsourcing our manufacturing jobs to China, we might have greater jobs gains stateside.
And our support services jobs to India? I thought I'd have to move to Bangalore, but Chuck Schumer is proposing an Outsourcing Tax to keep jobs state-side.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Cat,
It's not your job.
It's not your job.
Well, not anymore, it's not.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
So what, I'm only supposed to be protective and defensive about jobs I've personally done?
Cat,
Man you're a stupid *****. When you refer to manufacturing jobs as being "our" jobs I simply point out that it's not "your" (american citizens) jobs to begin with. These are jobs created by companies so that they may profit from employing people. If they can find a telemarketer in India to do the job for a fraction of the cost it takes to hire someone in the US there's nothing that the US govn should do to stop them; provided the countries they're going to have adequate child labour laws. Just more of typical liberal america thinking they deserve something just because they were born in the US. 
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So what, I'm only supposed to be protective and defensive about jobs I've personally done?
Man you're a stupid *****. When you refer to manufacturing jobs as being "our" jobs I simply point out that it's not "your" (american citizens) jobs to begin with. These are jobs created by companies so that they may profit from employing people. If they can find a telemarketer in India to do the job for a fraction of the cost it takes to hire someone in the US there's nothing that the US govn should do to stop them; provided the countries they're going to have adequate child labour laws. Just more of typical liberal america thinking they deserve something just because they were born in the US. 
I don't think it should be offensive to expect that American citizens should expect to find jobs with American companies in America.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
You can't just go around calling women whores, Varrus. It's just not classy.
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
You can't just go around calling women whores, Varrus. It's just not classy.
Varus oftentimes reminds me of Ron Burgandy.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
You can't just go around calling women whores, Varrus. It's just not classy.
Varus oftentimes reminds me of Ron Burgandy.
He's more of a Brick Tamland.
He loves lamp.
"I have lost my way
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
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But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement"
Meh, I've been called worse.
Outsourcing CS jobs overseas may seem like a good idea, but some of those companies deliver inferior service, and routinely lie about how much money they're actually making.
For inbound and outbound sales, most companies are smart to stick to US based marketing firms. When I was doing IT sales, most people I talked were grateful that it was someone from Atlanta and not someone from New Delhi that was trying to convince them to buy new servers.
Edited, Jun 4th 2010 4:33pm by catwho
Outsourcing CS jobs overseas may seem like a good idea, but some of those companies deliver inferior service, and routinely lie about how much money they're actually making.
For inbound and outbound sales, most companies are smart to stick to US based marketing firms. When I was doing IT sales, most people I talked were grateful that it was someone from Atlanta and not someone from New Delhi that was trying to convince them to buy new servers.
Edited, Jun 4th 2010 4:33pm by catwho
Tulip,
and in the same fantasy you're applegate
****...
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Varus oftentimes reminds me of Ron Burgandy.
and in the same fantasy you're applegate
****...Cat,
And if this turns out to be more profitable than outsourcing I say go for it. Taxing companies extra simply because they choose to operate outside the US is anti-freedom and ant-capitalist to say the least. I say make the climate in the US more conducive to business so these companies are more profitable doing business in the US than taking their operations overseas.
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most people I talked were grateful that it was someone from Atlanta and not someone from New Delhi that was trying to convince them to buy new servers.
And if this turns out to be more profitable than outsourcing I say go for it. Taxing companies extra simply because they choose to operate outside the US is anti-freedom and ant-capitalist to say the least. I say make the climate in the US more conducive to business so these companies are more profitable doing business in the US than taking their operations overseas.
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