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Here in the US, we call that a "preemptive strike."

You didn't, Paulsol did. That was my response to him.


Proportional and measured? That's a joke. Punishment and retribution for terrorist acts and against the groups and states that support them should be swift, brutal and overwhelming.


Of course not. You're the definition of a European apologist.


They operate from Lebanon. The Lebanese allow them to stay there.


I believe the cliche is "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem."


They're only nightmares if you try to create equivalencies, which asking how your country would react in the given situation doesn't do. When you try to create the ideal equivalent analogy, anything breaks down. When you deal with reality, that Israel has been the victim of some 10,000 explosions since 2005 launched across their border from places like Gaza, and consider what your country's reaction would be in similar circumstances, you either tuck tail and negotiate (like France does with its rioting muzzies) or you kick their asses, disproportionately, back to the stone age.


So you're bemoaning a ratio that is caused by poorly armed terrorists attacking a state of the art military? Seems to me like the blame should maybe go to the people not smart enough to stop throwing rocks at tanks & helicopters.


You are wrong. Categorically. Hamas is a state funded organization also funded by rich individuals in the Saudi royal family and wealthy businessmen all over the region. Hezbollah is a state funded organization also funded by rich individuals in the Saudi royal family and wealthy businessmen all over the region. Saudi Arabia is one of the most socially oppressive regimes on the planet that just happens to talk more friendly in public than Iran does. The Wahabi clerics hate America's influence in the world and they only allow the royal family to maintain power while it supports the clerics and their fundamentalist teachings.


This falls apart because in the real world it would assume that other countries also use the same tactics and antagonisms that the stupid-assed countries and terrorist groups in the ME use. As such, it it total "******************

EDIT: so that's how you spell ********

Edited, Jun 8th 2010 11:32am by MoebiusLord

Yeah, well, this is my saying "fuck you" to gbaji then.



Clearly, the last 60 years in the ME have shown us how effective this strategy is... Hezbollah only emerged stronger after the Lebanon war, and Hamas' grip only tightened after the Gaza one. And the rockets are still coming. So... I don't know, maybe it's time for a rethink?



And how would your people respond if a foreign country was declared on where they lived, if they took their land, kicked out its original inhabitants, put you in squalid camps, and then machine gun down 500 kids in 3 weeks? What would your reaction be in similar circumstances?

So... see why we need the whole picture?



Really? How extraordinary... The same Saudi Royal family the US is allied with? The same Saudi Arabia the US gives all its cash to? The same Royal Family and businesses being constantly funded by the West??

Hmm... who was it that once said "if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem"? No, wait, who was it that once said that if you belong to a system and don't actively work to overthrow it you're complicit of it? Hmm... what a smart and foreseeing chap he was...

[quote] As such, it it total "*************************

******** is pretty awesome word indeed.

Or time to take the gloves off.


I'm fairly certain I know how the U.S. would react. We'd give them casinos and all would be forgiven.


Did I give you the impression that I agreed with the U.S.'s blind devotion to Israel after I said I didn't blindly support their policies? Did I give you the impression I was a fan of George W. Bush or the Left wing politicians in this country that won't let us drill for our own oil? Sorry. Didn't mean to give that impression.

The gloves are off! They're gone. They have ceased to be. They were taken out 10 years ago.

What you're asking them to do is take the skin off, and become Skeletor.

Not a cool move, man.

Nah, they just switched to lighter gloves. They hurt more than 16oz. amateur mitts, but they're by no means raw. You take the gloves off by doing a media blackout and going house to house and executing anyone with a weapon or bomb residue in their residence. You take the gloves off by closing the border and not shipping in the humanitarian aid. You take the gloves off by turning Gaza & the West Bank in to glass parking lots. You take the gloves off by unleashing the full might and fury of one of the worlds most motivated and well trained fighting forces on the poor unfortunate Palestinians and their terrorist renters.

The gloves are far from off.

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!

I couldn't imagine caring less about what other people feel. It's what they'd do in response to your actions that matters.

This isn't as fun as I thought it'd be.. I'm done.

And yet you've made it very easy, by clicking the Reply to this link, for the rest of us to imaging just that.


Is it safe to assume you won't be indulging me or are you trying to set me up to be charged with encouraging your suicide?

And I find you to be a less articulate and infinitely more insipid version of a corn filled ****, but you don't seem to care what others think of you either.

BURN!

Any chance you had of it being true has just gone out the window.

I think he uses his trolling to cover for his stupidity, myself.