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#1 Jun 02 2010 at 5:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank Bob we in the UK have gun control.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10219655.stm

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#2 Jun 02 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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Crazy Brits.
#3 Jun 02 2010 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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Bardalicious wrote:
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Boot in the Lake District

Crazy Brits.


Is that some sort of British slang for "kick in the ***"?
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#4 Jun 02 2010 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
I like how the Queen's reaction is included.

Once a decade is pretty infrequently for mass murders for a nation of about 50 million.
#5 Jun 02 2010 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Its grim up North....
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#6 Jun 02 2010 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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yossarian wrote:
I like how the Queen's reaction is included.

Once a decade is pretty infrequently for mass murders for a nation of about 50 million.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Meh - we've been getting these almost yearly.
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#7 Jun 03 2010 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
It's a shame, if it didn't happen in Cumbria, it wouldn't be such a sticky situation. Hopefully it doesn't leave a big stain on Brittan's reputation as a whole.
#8 Jun 03 2010 at 7:50 AM Rating: Good
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If only one of them poor countryside victims had been packing they would have stopped this crazed shooter. Right?
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#9 Jun 03 2010 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
Elinda wrote:
If only one of them poor countryside victims had been packing they would have stopped this crazed shooter. Right?
Or it could turn into a gun fight, who's stray bullets killed even more people.
#10 Jun 03 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
Elinda wrote:
If only one of them poor countryside victims had been packing they would have stopped this crazed shooter. Right?
Or it could turn into a gun fight, who's stray bullets killed even more people.
Pfft, More guns are the only answer to combating illegal gun use.
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#11 Jun 03 2010 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
I assumed it was a joke, as a given person's much more likely to have a gun in the countryside in Britain.

What Elinda said, that is.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2010 3:51pm by Kavekk
#12 Jun 03 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hot Fuzz wrote:
Andy: Y'know there's more guns in the c'untry than in the city.
Andrew: Yeah. Everyone an' their mums is packin' round here.
Nick: Oh yeah? Like who?
Andy: Farmers.
Nick: And?
Andrew: ...Farmers mums.
#13 Jun 04 2010 at 3:23 AM Rating: Good
It's funny because the debate in the UK is now about whether we should tighten our gun laws, eventhough they are some of the strictest in the world.

We were watching telly during lunch at work and talking about this. My colleagues started talking about tightening gun laws, and I said, as a joke and with a slight mental wink to you guys, "Actually, the best way to prevent this from happening would be to do the opposite, and arm everyone on the streets of England."

Hahaha, we all had a good laugh and continued with our lunches.
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#14 Jun 04 2010 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was just making a comment a couple of days ago about how laws made in reaction to a specific, unusual event are, generally speaking, bad laws. They tend to be pushed through as a result of panic and political grandstanding, and to have a scope and effect far beyond the intent of the lawmakers.

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#15 Jun 04 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was just making a comment a couple of days ago about how laws made in reaction to a specific, unusual event are, generally speaking, bad laws. They tend to be pushed through as a result of panic and political grandstanding, and to have a scope and effect far beyond the intent of the lawmakers.


I agree. I think gun laws are the least of the UK's problems. There's really not much you can do to stop some crazy guy killing a bunch of random people if he really feels like it.
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#16 Jun 04 2010 at 7:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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So what is the story on this guy, anyway?

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#17 Jun 04 2010 at 8:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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So what is the story on this guy, anyway?


Same as usual. Seemed normal, "kept himself to himself", and then one day went crazy over some slighty aggravating but fundamentally trivial inheritance issue. He went round and killed some colleagues, his twin brother, his old boss that fired him, and random people on the way. Common stuff.

What makes me laugh are the TV journalists going round and asking neighbours what he was like. They obviously all say the same thing, he was nice, quiet, etc... But what do they expect? "Well, he seemed normal enough, except he had this quirky habit of carrying a gigantic shotgun around and screaming "MUUUURRRDDEEERRRR!!!" everytime the traffic light turned red, but other than that he was a jolly good bloke."
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#18 Jun 04 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I understand the itch to define that behavior. It's fascinating and scary. It's a pipeline to the abyss.

How can someone who seemed so normal go so wrong? Were there really no warning signs?

And I think deep down we're all worried that this *is* normal behavior.
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#19 Jun 04 2010 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I understand the itch to define that behavior. It's fascinating and scary. It's a pipeline to the abyss.

How can someone who seemed so normal go so wrong? Were there really no warning signs?

And I think deep down we're all worried that this *is* normal behavior.


Apparently not. Everything that's been said about how he was prior to the incident seems to indicate he was a pretty ordinary middle-aged taxi driver in Cumbria.

I understand people's fascination with these things, but I think it's ultimately pointless. There will never be an explanation, or a rationale, or anything that can explain such behaviour. At some point in their lives, certain people
just completely lose it. I don't know, is there ever much more to it than that?
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#20 Jun 04 2010 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
Well, who among us can honestly say they've never wanted to go on a murderous rampage?
#21 Jun 04 2010 at 8:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, I mean I think we're all worried that this behavior is normal human behavior.

For a given value of "normal", I guess; but normal enough to recur at statistically consistent intervals.

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#22 Jun 04 2010 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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No, I mean I think we're all worried that this behavior is normal human behavior.


It is. We like to kill each other, and especially so if we feel justified by moral superiority or vengeance or whatever. I've gotta say, though, I'm not worried by it.

Anyway, who cares about this guy? Why haven't we talked about this yet?

#23 Jun 04 2010 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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See, that's another example. Copycat killers.

How many people are so close to the edge of insanity that someone else's insanity gives them permission to leap into the abyss?

It's so trendy to stab school children these day. I remember when it was cool. Smiley: mad

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#24 Jun 04 2010 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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No, I mean I think we're all worried that this behavior is normal human behavior.


It is. We like to kill each other, and especially so if we feel justified by moral superiority or vengeance or whatever. I've gotta say, though, I'm not worried by it.

Anyway, who cares about this guy? Why haven't we talked about this yet?


Because even the "kids" factor can't make up for the fact that England is culturally closer and therefore resonates better with our regular viewers.

And none of the victims were called "Dong", so that's another hook gone.
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#25 Jun 04 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Barkingturtle wrote:


Anyway, who cares about this guy? Why haven't we talked about this yet?
If you want to talk about knife control you'll have to start another thread.
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#26 Jun 04 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Barkingturtle wrote:

Anyway, who cares about this guy? Why haven't we talked about this yet?


Because even the "kids" factor can't make up for the fact that England is culturally closer and therefore resonates better with our regular viewers.


That's just it, though. It's too familiar and easily explained. I mean sh*t, if you're a middle-aged cab driver I think every day you don't go on a killing spree is a tiny miracle.

Stabbing kids, though, well see that's actually fUcked up.

Edited, Jun 4th 2010 8:13am by Barkingturtle
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