So are we just going to pretend Obama didn't bribe this guy to quit the senate race?
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Are we?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I think we are.
I'm pretending that I didn't just waste my time reading this.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
So are we just going to pretend Obama didn't bribe this guy to quit the senate race?
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
bsphil,
Yeah yeah we know you only care about sh*t like this when a GOP member is involved.
What a surprise liberal Democrats covering up for a lying sack of sh*t.
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I'm pretty sure you're going to end up believing whatever insane bullsh*t is being spewed from whatever far right blogs you skim over, regardless of what the facts of the situation are.
Yeah yeah we know you only care about sh*t like this when a GOP member is involved.
What a surprise liberal Democrats covering up for a lying sack of sh*t.
Bush's chief ethics lawyer wrote:
The Hatch Act prohibits a federal employee from being a candidate for nomination or election to a partisan political office. He had to choose one or the other, but he could not choose both. The job offer may have been a way of getting Sestak out of Specter's way, but this also is nothing new. Many candidates for top Administration appointments are politically active in the President's political party. Many are candidates or are considering candidacy in primaries. White House political operatives don't like contentious fights in their own party primaries and sometimes suggest jobs in the Administration for persons who otherwise would be contenders. For the White House, this is usually a 'win-win' situation, giving the Administration politically savvy appointees in the Executive Branch and fewer contentious primaries for the Legislative Branch. This may not be best for voters who have less choice as a result, and Sestak thus should be commended for saying 'no'. The job offer, however, is hardly a 'bribe' when it is one of two alternatives that are mutually exclusive.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I guess it depends on what constitutes a bribe.
the article wrote:
White House asked Bill Clinton to talk to Joe Sestak about Senate run
By Michael D. Shear and Philip Rucker
Washington Post staff writers
Friday, May 28, 2010; 12:58 PM
At the urging of the Obama White House, former President Bill Clinton asked Rep. Joe Sestak whether he would abandon his plans to challenge Sen. Arlen Specter in a Pennsylvania Democratic primary if given an unpaid, advisory position, according to a White House counsel report issued Friday morning.
By Michael D. Shear and Philip Rucker
Washington Post staff writers
Friday, May 28, 2010; 12:58 PM
At the urging of the Obama White House, former President Bill Clinton asked Rep. Joe Sestak whether he would abandon his plans to challenge Sen. Arlen Specter in a Pennsylvania Democratic primary if given an unpaid, advisory position, according to a White House counsel report issued Friday morning.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samy,
Ah here come the Dems to change the definition of the word bribe.
For the time being a bribe can be described as;
dictionary.com
Jophed,
Simply saying everybody does it is no excuse for breaking the law.
Ah here come the Dems to change the definition of the word bribe.
For the time being a bribe can be described as;
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anything given or serving to persuade or induce
dictionary.com
Jophed,
Simply saying everybody does it is no excuse for breaking the law.
That wasn't his argument but nice try.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I think Varrus only argues with the people inside his mind and not the people posting on Allakhazam.
Jophed,
Yeah he only said,
Yeah he only said,
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I guess it depends on what constitutes a bribe.
His name is an anagram for 'steaks' and it's making me hungry.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Yeah he only said,
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I guess it depends on what constitutes a bribe.
I wasn't referring to Mlle Samira.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophed,
So no liberals here want to talk about the Sestak bribe. That's all you had to say. We've got samy trying to re-define what bribe means and you quoting W's attorney. Does anyone have anything to say about the bribe?
So no liberals here want to talk about the Sestak bribe. That's all you had to say. We've got samy trying to re-define what bribe means and you quoting W's attorney. Does anyone have anything to say about the bribe?
Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
His name is an anagram for 'steaks' and it's making me hungry.
I keep thinking it says "Sleestak" and makes me want to watch Land of the Lost reruns...
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
and you quoting W's attorney. Does anyone have anything to say about the bribe?
According to said attorney, there was no bribe. Did you want to talk about unicorns as well?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
What do you and your exploding son have against unicorns?
I'm stuck in silly gear, I should go to bed.
Edited, May 28th 2010 4:35pm by Lubriderm
I'm stuck in silly gear, I should go to bed.
Edited, May 28th 2010 4:35pm by Lubriderm
Jophed,
I guess that's why Obama had to suddenly meet with slick willy. Wonder what he's offering slick willy?
Where there's smoke there's fire.
I guess that's why Obama had to suddenly meet with slick willy. Wonder what he's offering slick willy?
Where there's smoke there's fire.
Jophiel wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
and you quoting W's attorney. Does anyone have anything to say about the bribe?
According to said attorney, there was no bribe. Did you want to talk about unicorns as well?
I think the argument is disingenuous, regardless of the definition of a bribe. What I would like to know is how does all of this equate with Obama's promises to make this the most transparent and ethical White House in [whatever the time period was]? At the very least it won't pass the smell test for a great many Americans that the White House Chief of Staff asked a former president to offer a "job" (in the words of Mr. Sestak) to a sitting congressman to get him to drop out of a senate race.
I also want to point out that if this were Carl Rove accused of asking Sr. to approach someone in the same circumstance we would have non-stop media coverage of it for weeks on end. You can call that speculation, and it may be, but if it is it's educated speculation based on past behavior and the current light treatment of all of this president's failings by the majority of the media.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Where there's smoke there's fire.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Where there's smoke there's fire.
It's too easy to confuse him. Please don't add science to the equation.
So now smoke comes from ashes 
Havn't set too many bonfires have you.
Havn't set too many bonfires have you.
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
I also want to point out that if this were Carl Rove accused of asking Sr. to approach someone in the same circumstance we would have non-stop media coverage of it for weeks on end. You can call that speculation
It's not speculation, it's blind guessing based on a profound sense of butt-hurtness.
"Sure, there's no story but if the other guy did it, there'd be a story and so that means this should be a story too!"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
So now smoke comes from ashes
Havn't set too many bonfires have you.
Havn't set too many bonfires have you.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
So now smoke comes from ashes
Havn't set too many book burnings have you.
Havn't set too many book burnings have you.
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