http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46245.asx?bkup=46260 (Works better if you open in Windows Media Player)
Was watching it at work. It's pretty interesting when they are actually down there fiddling around. (No audio)
I guess there is a CNN feed, too, from a different camera, if you want commentary.
Edited, May 26th 2010 7:48am by Lubriderm
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That's pretty cool. I understand that BP wanted to turn off the live feed during the upcoming 'top kill' but the guberment says 'no'.
So we should get to watch the plugging attempt.
So we should get to watch the plugging attempt.
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The plume looked stopped at about 3 am, but I guess it only had something to do with their testing.
Back in my field days, one of my jobs as a hazmat tech was actually responding to oil spills in Maines coastal waterways. In 1996 we had a spill of ~60,000 gallons when a tanker hit a bridge in Portland Harbor. It was, of course, all the news for days. The clean up, which I eventually was just relegated to oversight on, was so incredibly wasteful.
My agency claimed we recovered about 80% of the oil. That's bogus. I'd have said 20% at most. But they had gallons and gallons of oily water and fluffed up estimates of how much oil the sorbent booms had soaked up, blah blah blah....all assumptions used in the calculation were whacked. The whole thing was such a media show I almost puked.
Anyway, this hole in the bottom of the sea is releasing about the same quantity of oil...only every single day it goes on.
My agency claimed we recovered about 80% of the oil. That's bogus. I'd have said 20% at most. But they had gallons and gallons of oily water and fluffed up estimates of how much oil the sorbent booms had soaked up, blah blah blah....all assumptions used in the calculation were whacked. The whole thing was such a media show I almost puked.
Anyway, this hole in the bottom of the sea is releasing about the same quantity of oil...only every single day it goes on.
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Elinda,
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Elinda,
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Elinda,
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
Did the spill you dealt with completely ***** up the local water life?
Our biggest protection efforts went towards a marsh. We had some success in actually declaring some areas strictly off limits as the harm to salt marshes simply from walking on them is pretty well documented. In 2006 (10 years after the event) following a lengthy damage assessment and reparations the thing was declared 'over' (the responsible party had no further responsibilities).
I had responded to other spills of lesser quantity but much more detrimental to the environment. There was a spill of about 12k gallons of #6 oil from a power plant on the NH side of the Piscataqua river once. This oil sunk quickly really making a mess of the lobstering in the area. It was however, localized.
The area covered by this Gulf spill alone, is enough to make a clean up seem unreasonable.
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It's on right now, they aren't showing the oil spewing out of the pipe anymore though so it's hard to see if it's working yet or not.
What amazes me is that the USA finally has a Genuine reason to invade a country over oil, and I still don't see swarms of knuckle-dragging US Special Forces shouting "HUAH!" outside my window here in England.
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They're all disguised as absurd red telephone booths and double-decker buses.
I find watching from The Select Committee On Energy Independence and Global Warning site has better feeds.
Got to be thankful that our House members won't be cowed by BP.
Got to be thankful that our House members won't be cowed by BP.
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For awhile, the entire view was obscured with plumes of what looks like silt ejecta. Now the cloud has diminished somewhat, and I see...some piece of equipment...and more spewing crap of indeterminate color and makeup.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
The current word is that they think everything spewing out now is the mud, but say that we won't really know anything for until afternoon (US east/central) maybe.
Here's some diagrams of what they are doing (the second two are more detailed).
Edited, May 27th 2010 8:02am by Lubriderm
Here's some diagrams of what they are doing (the second two are more detailed).
Edited, May 27th 2010 8:02am by Lubriderm
Coast Guard thinks it's working I just saw. Good news.
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They're all disguised as absurd red telephone booths and double-decker buses.
And blue police boxes.
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So now Obama's taking credit for what BP is doing to clean this up.
Why won't Obama respond to Gov. Jindals request?
Why won't Obama respond to Gov. Jindals request?
fox news wrote:
Obama said that the federal government is "in charge" of the efforts to contain the damage from the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. He called the leak his administration's "highest priority" and said anyone claiming otherwise doesn't know the facts.
"This entire White House and this federal government has been singularly focused on how do we stop the leak and how do we prevent and mitigate the damage to our coastlines," Obama said.
The press conference comes as the White House battles the perception that it has not done enough to contain the damage from the gushing oil spill in the Gulf. Obama said response teams are using the "best science" to plug the leak, but stressed that BP, not the federal government, has the "superior technology" to get the job done. He said the federal government is taking "full advantage" of that expertise, acknowledging that the response is "absolutely not" going perfectly.
But he insisted that Washington is the one giving the orders and has the authority to order BP to change course.
"From the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge of the response effort," Obama said. "BP is operating at our direction."
He added that BP will pay "every dime" for the damage it has done to the coastal communities. "BP is responsible for this horrific disaster and we will hold them fully accountable on behalf of the United States," he said.
"This entire White House and this federal government has been singularly focused on how do we stop the leak and how do we prevent and mitigate the damage to our coastlines," Obama said.
The press conference comes as the White House battles the perception that it has not done enough to contain the damage from the gushing oil spill in the Gulf. Obama said response teams are using the "best science" to plug the leak, but stressed that BP, not the federal government, has the "superior technology" to get the job done. He said the federal government is taking "full advantage" of that expertise, acknowledging that the response is "absolutely not" going perfectly.
But he insisted that Washington is the one giving the orders and has the authority to order BP to change course.
"From the moment this disaster began, the federal government has been in charge of the response effort," Obama said. "BP is operating at our direction."
He added that BP will pay "every dime" for the damage it has done to the coastal communities. "BP is responsible for this horrific disaster and we will hold them fully accountable on behalf of the United States," he said.
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I'm not really seeing the confusion.
We hire subcontractors. We do so because we lack the equipment or expertise to do certain tasks (such as a massive rooftop irrigation system). We oversee the subcontractors and are ultimately in charge of the subcontractors but we're not about to start hauling pipe connections ourselves because that's not what we do.
I view the government/BP kind of the same way -- Obama is ultimately at the top of the chain but the government itself lacks the equipment or skills to unilaterally fix it. At the same time, just as we might tell a subcontractor "You need to be out tomorrow and change Zone three so it oversprays that area", the government makes broad decisions on what BP needs to be doing. Sometimes a subcontractor screws up or takes a while to arrive at a solution and it sucks but there's not much you can do about it. Likewise for BP and stopping the leak.
So, no, I don't think that Obama being "in charge" means every decision by BP was his decision (although in the public eye he may be ultimately responsible). Nor do I think that BP making the bulk of the technical decisions means the administration is just watching from the sidelines. It's a blend of the two.
We hire subcontractors. We do so because we lack the equipment or expertise to do certain tasks (such as a massive rooftop irrigation system). We oversee the subcontractors and are ultimately in charge of the subcontractors but we're not about to start hauling pipe connections ourselves because that's not what we do.
I view the government/BP kind of the same way -- Obama is ultimately at the top of the chain but the government itself lacks the equipment or skills to unilaterally fix it. At the same time, just as we might tell a subcontractor "You need to be out tomorrow and change Zone three so it oversprays that area", the government makes broad decisions on what BP needs to be doing. Sometimes a subcontractor screws up or takes a while to arrive at a solution and it sucks but there's not much you can do about it. Likewise for BP and stopping the leak.
So, no, I don't think that Obama being "in charge" means every decision by BP was his decision (although in the public eye he may be ultimately responsible). Nor do I think that BP making the bulk of the technical decisions means the administration is just watching from the sidelines. It's a blend of the two.
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I'm watching it here now:
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html
Looks like it's just spewing mud. A few ROVs have shown up with wrenches over the past hour. If the whole thing wasn't so depressing, I'd call a live feed of ROVs at -5000 feet pretty cool..
Oh, that's the same video. Oh well.
Edited, May 27th 2010 2:28pm by Ehcks
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html
Looks like it's just spewing mud. A few ROVs have shown up with wrenches over the past hour. If the whole thing wasn't so depressing, I'd call a live feed of ROVs at -5000 feet pretty cool..
Oh, that's the same video. Oh well.
Edited, May 27th 2010 2:28pm by Ehcks
Jophiel wrote:
I'm not really seeing the confusion.
We hire subcontractors. We do so because we lack the equipment or expertise to do certain tasks (such as a massive rooftop irrigation system). We oversee the subcontractors and are ultimately in charge of the subcontractors but we're not about to start hauling pipe connections ourselves because that's not what we do.
We hire subcontractors. We do so because we lack the equipment or expertise to do certain tasks (such as a massive rooftop irrigation system). We oversee the subcontractors and are ultimately in charge of the subcontractors but we're not about to start hauling pipe connections ourselves because that's not what we do.
This is more than a bit disingenuous. The President saying "We" this and "We" that, implying that the federal government has had some great involvement in the efforts to abate & contain the damage, only now after a promising solution has been implemented is in stark contrast to the official posturing the last several weeks that has placed responsibility and blame anywhere but on the government and his administration.
Jophed,
No you don't. You're viewing them the same way at this time because it's politically the thing to do now if you're a Dem.
Has Obama addressed Jindals request?
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No you don't. You're viewing them the same way at this time because it's politically the thing to do now if you're a Dem.
Has Obama addressed Jindals request?
He requested Obama hold BP accountable and Obama has said that they will pay for all the damage recovery so yes? We'll have to wait and see how effective he is of course
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
The President saying "We" this and "We" that, implying that the federal government has had some great involvement in the efforts to abate & contain the damage, only now after a promising solution has been implemented is in stark contrast to the official posturing the last several weeks that has placed responsibility and blame anywhere but on the government and his administration.
I was speaking more overall. I haven't listened to but a little bit of today's conference. I'm not particularly riled by what you've said but... whatever. There's no debate to be had in it since it's all perspective.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
No you don't.
Hahahaha... man, you got me there. Touché!
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