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The video is of Democrats giving the Mexican President a standing ovation after he blasted the new Arizona Immigration law.
With nearly 70% of the public in support of the bill and Arizona this video is gonna make more than a few great campaign videos this November.
As a Conservative I just wanted to say thank you for the gift. :-)
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Dude, did you get coal for Christmas every year? Your idea of a gift is pretty poor. I would have at least asked for a clockwork train.
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With nearly 70% of the public in support of the bill
Cite?
Here's mine:
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Arizona-Immigration-Law-Stokes-National-Debate-92530669.html
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A new Gallup Poll found that 39 percent of those asked support the Arizona law, 30 percent oppose it and 31 percent either have no opinion or haven't heard of it.
39% is not 70%.
catwho wrote:
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With nearly 70% of the public in support of the bill
Cite?
Here's mine:
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Arizona-Immigration-Law-Stokes-National-Debate-92530669.html
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A new Gallup Poll found that 39 percent of those asked support the Arizona law, 30 percent oppose it and 31 percent either have no opinion or haven't heard of it.
39% is not 70%.
Obviously those 31 percent that don't have an opinion really means 31% that don't not support it, and therefor support it. You gotta spin the numbers to fit your own agenda.
(Wait, those 31% could be ones that don't not not support it... and therefor don't support it... meaning 61% are against the bill!)
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Here's my take on it.
39% support it = Half of them actually support it, but the other half don't know what it is and say they support it so they don't appear ignorant.Or, they believe the spin about it.
30% opposed it = Half of them actually opposed it, but the other half don't know what it is and say they opposed it so they don't appear ignorant.
31% admit they don't know what it is and don't care if they look ignorant. This is the apathetic 31% that also decides elections.
39% support it = Half of them actually support it, but the other half don't know what it is and say they support it so they don't appear ignorant.
30% opposed it = Half of them actually opposed it, but the other half don't know what it is and say they opposed it so they don't appear ignorant.
31% admit they don't know what it is and don't care if they look ignorant. This is the apathetic 31% that also decides elections.
That's so sweet of the OP to thank us.
And let me thank you! Without some of you Pubbies, the Democrats couldn't have handed Obama that major legislative victory in passing the finance reform bill!
And let me thank you! Without some of you Pubbies, the Democrats couldn't have handed Obama that major legislative victory in passing the finance reform bill!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Regarding the poll difference, I believe the 39% approval is from a national poll, and the 60-70% numbers come from polls of Arizonans.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
catwho wrote:
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With nearly 70% of the public in support of the bill
Cite?
Rasmussen Reports
55% nationally in favor of AZ style law, 33% oppose.
69% nationally in favor of required checks of immigration status for suspected illegals at traffic stops, 23% oppose.
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
checks of immigration status for suspected illegals at traffic stops, 23% oppose.
Ok, I haven't read the bill, but is this all it does? Lets police check if someone is in the country illegally? If that's the case, I'd be more concerned with the fact that you have to pass a bill to allow a police officer to check someone out in the first place than the bill itself.
And 60% of Americans approve of giving illegal immigrants a path to legal citizenship.
I don't expect that to change anyone's opinion, either.
I don't expect that to change anyone's opinion, either.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Yodabunny wrote:
His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
checks of immigration status for suspected illegals at traffic stops, 23% oppose.
Ok, I haven't read the bill, but is this all it does? Lets police check if someone is in the country illegally? If that's the case, I'd be more concerned with the fact that you have to pass a bill to allow a police officer to check someone out in the first place than the bill itself.
I believe the issue is that previously, cops could not question immigration status unless the person was a suspect in a crime. Now, they can check any random person they find "reasonably suspicious".
Jophed,
There is a path, and it goes right over a little river.
That said watching el presidente de mexico blast a US state from the whitehouse lawn won't sit well with people that actually love this country. Of course this shouldn't bother the 30% of the liberal base that think the US is the great evil empire.
Far right = gun loving, survivalist, christ loving, anti-abortion folks.
Far left = anti-gun, govn dependency, anti-religion, pro-abortion hippies.
Sounds about right...
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And 60% of Americans approve of giving illegal immigrants a path to legal citizenship.
I don't expect that to change anyone's opinion, either.
I don't expect that to change anyone's opinion, either.
There is a path, and it goes right over a little river.
That said watching el presidente de mexico blast a US state from the whitehouse lawn won't sit well with people that actually love this country. Of course this shouldn't bother the 30% of the liberal base that think the US is the great evil empire.
Far right = gun loving, survivalist, christ loving, anti-abortion folks.
Far left = anti-gun, govn dependency, anti-religion, pro-abortion hippies.
Sounds about right...
knoxxsouthy wrote:
There is a path, and it goes right over a little river.
Always there to prove my points for me, ain'tcha Sport?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
There is a path, and it goes right over a little river.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda,
I'm like that; once you let me in i'm like a bad tune that you can't get out of your head.
cooostanza
Of course it's all just me using my jedi mind powers on your feeble little brains
I'm like that; once you let me in i'm like a bad tune that you can't get out of your head.
cooostanza
Of course it's all just me using my jedi mind powers on your feeble little brains
catwho wrote:
This is the apathetic 31% that also decides elections.
The popular vote doesn't technically mean anything, the electoral college could in theory (and practice *cough* Bush Jr *cough*) vote for whoever they pleased.
Alpinestars wrote:
The popular vote doesn't technically mean anything, the electoral college could in theory (and practice *cough* Bush Jr *cough*) vote for whoever they pleased.
I'm not sure what the "Bush Jr" thing is supposed to mean. Yeah, he lost the popular vote but he legitimately collected the majority of electors. It's not as though Bush only won because a bunch of faithless Democratic electors all changed their votes to Bush or something.
While the popular votes technically could mean "nothing", the reality is that party electors aren't selected lightly and is a prestigious role given to loyal party members. The chance of the electors ever voting against their party in sufficient numbers to matter is somewhere between zero and nil.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Far left = anti-gun, govn dependency, anti-religion, pro-abortion hippies.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
BrownDuck wrote:
I believe the issue is that previously, cops could not question immigration status unless the person was a suspect in a crime. Now, they can check any random person they find "reasonably suspicious".
This is incorrect. The police can only verify resident status if they have a reasonable suspicion after they have already stopped or arrested someone for violating a law or ordinance already on the books. They do not have the right to randomly walk up to a guy pumping gas and say, "You look illegal. Show me your papers."
It's amazing that even at this stage in the whole affair this is still the widespread belief of what the law says.
Well, actually, not that amazing.
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