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#27 May 24 2010 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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So you think they should have sat on the story until late October?

That's interesting. Not especially surprising but interesting.


Is there any doubt in your mind if this was damaging to the GOP they would have sat on it?


#28 May 24 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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So it is your position that the NYT has never presented any news that might be politically damaging to the Republican Party in May of an election year?

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#29 May 24 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is there any doubt in your mind if this was damaging to the GOP they would have sat on it?

I find the martyrdom and persecution complex conservatives suffer to be fascinating. It seems you can't be a conservative without a constant cry of how everyone is out to get you and how unfair the world is to you. It's a nice 180 from the mindset you guys claim to have and really shows your character brilliantly. Everything is always someone else's fault, you're never wrong or make mistakes, everyone is out to get you and that's why you fail, etc.

Fascinating.
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#30 May 24 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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Everything is always someone else's fault,


Isn't this the argument you use to justify stealing from me to give to someone else? I mean it's not their fault they had 3 kids they couldn't afford, it's not their fault they're fat ****s who can't afford their health insurance, it's not their fault they smoke and can't afford a cancer policy. H*ll the liberals and Democrats in general make their living off this ideology.


Where you apply this attitude to life I only apply it to liberal democrats. And liberal democrats never let me down. Oh and you didn't answer my question. Is there any doubt in your mind if the huffington post or NYT had a story damaging to the GOP they would have sat on it. Does the name Jason Blair ring a bell?
#31 May 24 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
Sammy,

Not all but most....

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The study, released Monday from the Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) and Harvard’s Shorenstein Center, found newspapers and broadcast TV outlets devoted far more time to covering the Democratic candidates than the Republicans and that the tone of those stories was much more favorable to the Democrats, mirroring the results of a Media Research Center study released in August.



http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2007/10/30/study-media-elites-campaign-news-more-biased-talk-radio


#32 May 24 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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How surprising that your "proof" is a conservative blogger. Yawn.

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#33 May 24 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
I mean it's not their fault they had 3 kids they couldn't afford, it's not their fault they're fat ****s who can't afford their health insurance, it's not their fault they smoke and can't afford a cancer policy.

So you have the same mindset as an obese smoker with three kids and no insurance? Sure, I'll agree to that.
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Is there any doubt in your mind if the huffington post or NYT had a story damaging to the GOP they would have sat on it

News is worth the most when you're the first one to have it. Sitting on a story, particularly for months, just invites making it worthless when your story is running on the competition's front page.

So, ignoring ethical considerations, it makes little fiscal sense.

Edited, May 24th 2010 11:37am by Jophiel
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#34 May 24 2010 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
Samy,

How surprising you don't have a source, any source.


#35 May 24 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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So you have the same mindset as an obese smoker with three kids and no insurance


No that would be you and your liberal buddies.



Edited, May 24th 2010 1:36pm by knoxxsouthy
#36 May 24 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

How surprising you don't have a source, any source.




A source for what, pray?

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#37 May 24 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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No that would be you and your liberal buddies.

And yet you're the one crying in the thread about how unfair the NYT is being to Republicans by not waiting until October to publish negative stories about a Democrat.

Funny how your words don't match your actions.
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#38 May 24 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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And yet you're the one crying in the thread about how unfair the NYT is being to Republicans by not waiting until October to publish negative stories about a Democrat.


Once again you fail at reading comprehension 101. I was saying had this story been damaging to the GOP the NYT would have sat on it. They did it numerous times during Obama's run and they also did it during Gores and Kerrys runs as well as Reagans entire presidency. This is precisely why no member of the GOP should ever appear on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, or CBS. In this day and age the GOP can get their message out in numerous other ways.

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Once again you fail at reading comprehension 101.

Not remotely. It's easy to tell when you're in tears over how mean the Scary Democrats & Media are to your poor widdle selves.

I just need to see if there's a sky above me and earth beneath me. If so, you're crying about something.

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I was saying had this story been damaging to the GOP the NYT would have sat on it. They did it numerous times during Obama's run and they also did it during Gores and Kerrys runs as well as Reagans entire presidency. This is precisely why no member of the GOP should ever appear on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, or CBS.

See? WWWAAHHH!!!! SCARY MEDIA IS SO MEAN TO US!!! WAAAAHHHH!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!! WAAHHH!!!"

Edited, May 24th 2010 1:06pm by Jophiel
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#40 May 24 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

How surprising you don't have a source, any source.
The Source of Samy is one of them ancient secrets, like the shroud, the cup and the fountain of youth.
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#41 May 24 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

At least W gave interviews and let the press ask him questions. Obama won't let the press, any press, near him unless he has a tele-prompter on hand and the answers the questions slowly streaming across his line of sight.

This also goes back to where this country is heading politically. Wait until droves of GOP candidates simply refuse to be interviewed by any "news" source they believe to be biased. No access for cbs, nbc, abc, msnbc, npr, or cnn. H*ll Rand Paul said no to that limp d*cked liberal and look at the fit you libs are throwing over that.

#42 May 24 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
Elinda,

You're more right than you realize.

Of course kidding about sources when you have none, absolutely none, to validate your side is something liberals are all to practiced at.

#43 May 24 2010 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I made no assertion, and therefore need no source.

You are really bad at this.

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#44 May 24 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, remember that time Bush went on live television before the Democratic House Caucus and took questions from them for an hour and a half (was supposed to only be an hour but Bush said he was 'having fun' and stayed late) and schooled them to the point were MSNBC cut the feed short rather than keep showing the Democrats being embarrassed?

Man, I wish Obama was brave enough to do something like that. But he needs his teleprompter so I guess it'll never happen.
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#45 May 24 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
Samy,

I made the assertion and provided the data supporting it. Now it's your turn to either dissprove the data or provide data of you own. All you did was dismiss it. Of course that's what liberals do when they have no data of their own.

http://www.journalism.org/node/8197


Come back at me with some data showing why I should believe the NYT, nbc, abc, npr, msnbc, and cnn are bi-partisan and not merely mouthpieces for the left. You can't the data isn't their to support it. So obviously the next step for you is to belittle and discount the data that is available.
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
why I should believe the NYT, nbc, abc, npr, msnbc, and cnn are bi-partisan and not merely mouthpieces for the left.

No one made the assertion that they aren't "mouthpieces", you made the argument that they are. Which is Samira's point.

I doubt anyone cares enough to spend the keystrokes "trying" to make you think that they're fair & balanced.
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#47 May 24 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

No you just pretended to act surprised that the NYT broke this story.
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You seem to have trouble following this thread. I never pretended to be (nor was) surprised that it was the NYT.
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#49 May 24 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
You seem to have trouble following this thread. I never pretended to be (nor was) surprised that it was the NYT.


To be fair, Catwho did, and she was the poster Varus responded to. You jumped in the middle of it, and started arguing with Varus about it. All Varus said was that he wasn't surprised that the NYT chose to run this story now since it's less harmful to do so now than in two or three months.

Obviously, we can all speculate about what might have happened if the candidate in question had been a Republican, but Varus' original statement in response to Cat's was valid. If we accept the premise that the NYT is a liberal leaning media outlet then it's not really surprising at all that they would write this story now. Certainly, one can make the argument that if they discovered this and figured that other media sources might find it between now and the election that the "earlier is better than later" principle would be applied, right? Assuming the premise about them being supportive of liberal candidates. Get it out of the way in the primary, so it's not an issue later, right?
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#50 May 24 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
Joph,

So you were being literal when you wrote;

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By the way, he was exposed by the New York Times. Standard bearer of your "liberal media" boogeymen.


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gbaji wrote:
To be fair, Catwho did, and she was the poster Varus responded to...
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Jophed,

No you just pretended to act surprised that the NYT broke this story.

But congratulations on trying to over analyze a =4 thread with Varus in it.

gbaji wrote:
If we accept the premise...

Why would we? Hell, you can just say all sorts of things are true if you just "accept the premise..."

As long as we're playing the "you know it's true!" game, let me just say how funny it is watching you two stooges fall all over yourselves to critically paint the Times for running the story when YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE that if Fox ran if first, you'd be jacking one another off and cheering about how much awesomer Fox is than the NYT (who was too afraid to run it!)

Edited, May 24th 2010 3:20pm by Jophiel
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