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#402 May 28 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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If they can discredit any aspect of the story...

Hahahaha... "any aspect"? The entire premise of the story was built on a lie.

Funny how folks keep putting out fabrications and you guys just eat it up. Then when it's shown to be a lie, you guys just go "But.. but... that wasn't the point!" when it really was the point. If they thought the truth would have gotten them the same reaction, they would have had to lie about it in the first place.

Hey, Gbaji tells me that he heard the Deepwater Horizon was seconds away from getting an award with the plaques already made up and everything! Isn't that so totally ironic?
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#403 May 28 2010 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

Sorry little fellow but Obama's the one appointing trans-genders and uber dykes at every turn. Is it such a stretch that he would appoint someone sympathetic to nambla?

#404 May 28 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I know, right? Like, who needs facts when you can just make up what you think is true and run with that!
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#405 May 28 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

You mean facts likes these;

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In 1997, according to a transcript put together by Brian J. Burt, managing editor of the student-run Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Jennings said he hoped that promoting homosexuality in schools would be considered fine in the future.


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The group Jennings founded has also been accused of promoting homosexuality in schools. At a GLSEN conference in 2000, co-sponsored with the Massachusetts Department of Education, the group landed in hot water when it was revealed that it had included an educational seminar for kids that graphically described some unorthodox sex techniques.


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A state official who spoke to teens at the conference said:

"Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's ****** or ******) often gets a bad rap....[It's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."


and the kicker;

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Another controversy from Jennings' past concerns an account in his 1994 book, "One Teacher In 10," about how, as a teacher, he knew a high school sophomore named Brewster who was "involved" with an "older man":

"Out spilled a story about his involvement with an older man he had met in Boston. I listened, sympathized, and offered advice. He left my office with a smile
on his face that I would see every time I saw him on the campus for the next two years, until he graduated."



Sorry little Joph his feelings towards boys being f*cked by old men seems quite clear.

You liberals sure do like to appoint degenerate pieces of sh*t.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/critics-assail-obamas-safe-schools-czar-say-hes-wrong-man-job/









#406 May 28 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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You realize that none of that "sex conference" stuff is actually connected to Jennings right? The fisting thing was from a different organization that was there (and which Jennings criticized), as were the pamphlets.

Brewster was 17 when the indcident occurred; over the age of consent.

It's like you just stop looking for information as soon as you find a half-factoid that tells you what you desperately want to hear.

Hahaha... "like". It's exactly that.
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#407 May 28 2010 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
Mass. has a dicey age of consent law. There is the standard 16 year old one, and another:

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Chapter 272: Section 4. Inducing person under eighteen to have sexual intercourse

Section 4. Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in a jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not more than $1,000 or by both such fine and imprisonment.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/272-4.htm

He probably should have reported it, given how vague that law is. But I don't have all of the specific details from their conversation; it all could have been perfectly innocent.
#408 May 28 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Jophed,

You mean facts likes these;

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In 1997, according to a transcript put together by Brian J. Burt, managing editor of the student-run Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Jennings said he hoped that promoting homosexuality in schools would be considered fine in the future.


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The group Jennings founded has also been accused of promoting homosexuality in schools. At a GLSEN conference in 2000, co-sponsored with the Massachusetts Department of Education, the group landed in hot water when it was revealed that it had included an educational seminar for kids that graphically described some unorthodox sex techniques.


Quote:
A state official who spoke to teens at the conference said:

"Fisting (forcing one's entire hand into another person's ****** or ******) often gets a bad rap....[It's] an experience of letting somebody into your body that you want to be that close and intimate with...[and] to put you into an exploratory mode."


and the kicker;

Quote:
Another controversy from Jennings' past concerns an account in his 1994 book, "One Teacher In 10," about how, as a teacher, he knew a high school sophomore named Brewster who was "involved" with an "older man":

"Out spilled a story about his involvement with an older man he had met in Boston. I listened, sympathized, and offered advice. He left my office with a smile
on his face that I would see every time I saw him on the campus for the next two years, until he graduated."



Sorry little Joph his feelings towards boys being f*cked by old men seems quite clear.


That's not even remotely clear to me... It actually seems like quite a stretch. The first three quotes don't mention anything about talking about men and boys, and the last quote doesn't really mean anything, either. No one knows how old this kids "older man" was. He could've been only two years older than him. You're really stretching with this, Varrus. It's not a surprise, really, though.
#409 May 28 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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Brewster was 17 when the indcident occurred; over the age of consent


No Brewster was 17 when he spoke with Jennings. The article doesn't say specificallly when the sex began.


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It's like you just stop looking for information as soon as you find a half-factoid that tells you what you desperately want to hear.


And it seems like you ignore anything that could be traced back to Obama and create concerns over his lack of judgment.


Mass. age of consent;

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However, Chapter 272, Section 4 sets another age of consent at 18 when the "victim" is "of chaste life" and the perpetrator induces them.

"Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse shall be punished





#410 May 28 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
Tulip,

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You're really stretching with this


and I was just thinking the same thing of Jophed. It's a fact that Obama appoints transgenders, it's a fact that Obama just repealed don't ask don't tell, it's a fact that this Jennings guy is a major supporter of the homosexual community, it's a fact that Obama appoint uber dykes. If anyones making a stretch it's you liberals and your defense of this appointment.

#411 May 28 2010 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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None of us have any idea how "chaste" Brewings was prior.
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The article doesn't say specificallly when the sex began.

Erm... this hurts your case more than anything else. Good point though!
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It's a fact that Obama appoints transgenders, it's a fact that Obama just repealed don't ask don't tell, it's a fact that this Jennings guy is a major supporter of the homosexual community, it's a fact that Obama appoint uber dykes

It's a fact that zero of the these has anything to do with what you originally claimed.

It's also a fact that at least half your list is wrong. Again. Man, you just can't stop lying, can you? Or are they just misstatements made from your usual complete ignorance?

Edited, May 28th 2010 12:21pm by Jophiel
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#412 May 28 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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Jophed,



Mass. age of consent;

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However, Chapter 272, Section 4 sets another age of consent at 18 when the "victim" is "of chaste life" and the perpetrator induces them.

"Whoever induces any person under 18 years of age of chaste life to have unlawful sexual intercourse shall be punished






But there is this law too:
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Chapter 265: Section 23. Rape and abuse of child

[ Text of section effective until October 22, 2008. For text effective October 22, 2008, see below.]

Section 23. Whoever unlawfully has sexual intercourse or unnatural sexual intercourse, and abuses a child under sixteen years of age shall, for the first offense, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life or for any term of years, or, except as otherwise provided, for any term in a jail or house of correction, and for the second or subsequent offense by imprisonment in the state prison for life or for any term of years, but not less than five years; provided, however, that a prosecution commenced under the provisions of this section shall not be placed on file or continued without a finding.

Chapter 265: Section 23. Rape and abuse of child

[ Text of section as amended by 2008, 205, Sec. 2 effective October 22, 2008. For text effective until October 22, 2008, see above.]

Section 23. Whoever unlawfully has sexual intercourse or unnatural sexual intercourse, and abuses a child under 16 years of age, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life or for any term of years or, except as otherwise provided, for any term in a jail or house of correction. A prosecution commenced under this section shall neither be continued without a finding nor placed on file.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/265-23.htm

The devil is in the details. Was Brewster leading a chaste life? Was he induced? If neither applies, then the law is 16.
#413 May 28 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

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None of us have any idea how "chaste" Brewings was prior.


That's right; which is precisely why Jennings should have contacted the proper authorities.

Unless of course it's the job of teachers now to protect possible child abusers.


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Erm... this hurts your case more than anything else. Good point though!


Which is why the proper authorities should have been notified instead of Obama's safe school czar possibly protecting a @#%^ph*le.


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It's a fact that zero of the these has anything to do with what you originally claimed.


Other than showing us what kinds of people Obama chooses to align himself. I find it difficult to believe that someone who finds trans-genders as normal would also have a problem with nambla.


I'm still waiting for someone from the press to ask Jennings why he didn't report this to the authorities when he first heard about.




Edited, May 28th 2010 1:48pm by knoxxsouthy
#414 May 28 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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I find it difficult to believe that someone who finds trans-genders as normal would also have a problem with nambla.


This surprises absolutely no one, I'm sure.

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#415 May 28 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
That's right; which is precisely why Jennings should have contacted the proper authorities.

None of us.

According to Brewster, it was willing consensual sex while he was "of age" and he's disgusted by the GOP trying to use him as a political weapon. I can't blame him. It's pretty pathetic. But I guess half-baked innuendo and lies are all you have.
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#416 May 28 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Which is why the proper authorities should have been notified instead of Obama's safe school czar possibly protecting a @#%^ph*le.


You do realize that it wasn't @#%^philia... right?

knoxxsouthy wrote:
I find it difficult to believe that someone who finds trans-genders as normal would also have a problem with nambla.


That's because you're a moron.

Edited, May 28th 2010 2:09pm by Belkira
#417 May 28 2010 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
Jophiel,

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According to Brewster, it was willing consensual sex while he was "of age" and he's disgusted by the GOP trying to use him as a political weapon



But you're not disgusted by Obama using his daughter as a political weapon, typical.

I know you're going to say you didn't say that but you might as well have posting it here.





Edited, May 28th 2010 3:58pm by knoxxsouthy
#418 May 28 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
Tulip,

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That's because you're a moron.


Takes one to know one.

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#419 May 28 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Tulip,

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That's because you're a moron.


Takes one to know one.
No. No it doesn't.
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#420 May 28 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Tulip,

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That's because you're a moron.


Takes one to know one.

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#421 May 28 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
bsphil,

Thank you for proving my point. Smiley: grin
#422 May 28 2010 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
But you're not disgusted by Obama using his daughter as a political weapon, typical.

Are you playing MadLibs over there?



Heh... "Libs"
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#423 May 28 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

"daddy when are you going to plug the hole in the gulf"

and it made front page news. Talk about exploiting children.

#424 May 28 2010 at 2:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Talk about exploiting children.

Yeah, that ain't it.

You're unusually incoherent and desperate today. Having a bad day?
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#425 May 28 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

So making up sh*t your child says to sell the public the illusion that you're doing everything you can to fix something isn't exploiting that child? Yeah right.
#426 May 28 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
So making up sh*t your child says...
And where did you find this nugget?
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