Greece is the wordFollow

Well, if it's good enough for American running shoe and childrens' toy companies...

Huh? You just Ignore history you don't want to talk about? We had a thread about this at the time.

If you're going to accuse me of making something up, maybe you shouldn't pick something so simple to prove?



You want to talk about Greece, but not involve any discussions of what sorts of economic decisions might have lead to the troubles they're in if those economic conditions happen to match any that you personally support. Isn't that what you really mean to say? You're like a drug addict insisting that another persons drug addiction couldn't have had anything to do with him losing his job and family and then committing suicide. Nope. Let's "talk about it", but not about anything that makes you maybe have to look at yourself in the mirror and re-evaluate your own behavior...


What's the point then? Are we to just bury our heads in the sand and pretend that social spending has nothing at all to do with this? It's always something else for you isn't it? You want to pretend that there is no cost for providing people with free stuff, but obviously there is one. You don't get something for nothing. Pretending that this isn't the case is going to bite you eventually. That's what happened in Greece. And what should be a lesson for the rest of the world is being lost to the spin from those who just don't want to face the truth of the matter.

They were protesting a bill that would allow employers to fire people without providing a reason for the first two years of work. There was nothing about never getting fired. Wow. Maybe you should read the first fucking paragraph of your link before you make sh*t up about it.

Edited, May 7th 2010 1:59pm by Xsarus

Yes. But the alcohol in the wine still "hurts the liver". It's just that the harm being done isn't sufficient to cause permanent damage to liver function, and the wine has other positive effects, resulting in a net positive.

In the same way, taxes are "always harmful" to the economy (specifically private enterprises). That does not preclude the things being done with those taxes outweighing that harm and generating a net positive, but it is important to recognize that taking any amount of money out of someone's pocket "harms" them. Even if you make up for that by providing them some good or service, you're still doing harm.




I think you're looking at the whole cycle. I'm looking just at the act of taxing someone. That is always harmful to that person. I just happen to think it's a horrible mistake to assume that the net effect of a tax/spend cycle is always going to be positive, so you view taxes as not always being harmful. That's going to lead to people accepting taxes for things the result of which are *not* net positives without realizing it.




Again, it depends on how you separate the concepts involved.

Existing French law makes it nearly impossible for an employer to fire someone. It's the equivalent of every single person in the country belonging to a labor union. You basically have to commit a felony at work to get fired. The proposed change would allow employers to fire people "at will" for the first two years and *only* the first two years.

From a US perspective, that's a shockingly silly thing to riot about, and it shows a massive sense of entitlement in that population.

yeah, now that you've totally changed what you're saying! I knew you'd come around Gbaji, you always do.

So you agree that saying something like taxes are always harmful is silly and ignores most of what is going on. Great!

No real entertainment value to it, either. Try filling the syringe with heroin.

Jophed,

Heroin can reduce pain so obviously the govn should mandate regular heroin usage paid for courtesy Obamacare.

Yeah because all of the limp-****** liberals had to wait for Moe, a conservative, to refute your idiotic claims, amirite?

Locked,



Whatta ya got?

But I was referring to you, and the other liberals here, complete inability to post any valid source supporting any of your absurd claims; be it # of canadians working in the US or the effect of the VAT tax on the EU or h*ll just about anything. You people will spend five pages calling me a moran without one valid source to support whatever you're arguing.

Moe linked a page previously, and I went through the effort of looking up the number of two types of visas previously and wrote down the information. The stuff was there to see; not looking at it isn't a valid excuse :-P. Did you want the links to the US department page? I can do that too.

Well, obviously. Why should we provide other sources when people can just read the thread?

Fair enough. Stop face-rolling the keyboard while you're on drugs.