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#27 May 03 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no problem going bare-chested in public. Blinding people with the glare off my pasty white skin can raise issues, though.
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#28 May 04 2010 at 1:32 AM Rating: Good
Damn, in all that excitement I forgot to make the ****** joke I intended to.

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Maine has had a couple of breast baring events recently, as have other locales. It is not considered indecent exposure (legally) for women to go shirtless in Maine.


If Robert Jordan were alive to see this he'd have a heart attack.
#29 May 04 2010 at 4:32 AM Rating: Good
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As long as the women that want to participate and support movements like this don't get all upset that men are going to be staring at their chests for a while then yeah, I support it. The human body shouldn't be something that we are ashamed of. Don't get me wrong some people definitely do not look good without clothes on let alone off. Hell, I am one of those people. But if men are allowed to walk around without a shirt on it would only make sense if they also allow women to do the same.

Oh and why the hell did I expect to see some bewbs when I clicked on that link, only to be disappointed both literally and figuratively. >.>
#30 May 04 2010 at 6:00 AM Rating: Good
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As a rule of thumb, those women intent on going on marches topless are precisely the ones men do NOT want to see. Women with tiggle bitties worth seeing don't go on parade unless there is a Mardi Gras, Spring Break, or rave nearby. Have you even seen those hags wobbling their way down the streets in Maine?

/effin' shudders

It's for women like these that laws declaring boobs are obscene were written, folks.

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#31 May 04 2010 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
I have too much juggle and not enough perky to want to show my boobs in public. Hell, when I'm at home, I'm almost always wearing a bra. I'm trying really hard not to completely succumb to gravity.
#32 May 04 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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In all sincerity, my boobs are fabulous and I don't believe some horny gawkers are worthy enough to get a free show. Attention from random creepy men makes me uncomfortable when I'm fully clothed in the grocery store, I ain't taking my shirt off for the whole world to enjoy.
#33 May 04 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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I don't fully understand why women would want to bare their bewbs. Despite our saturated culture, sexuality is still an intimate thing, and so I'd think most people wouldn't go for it. The responses in this thread reflect this.

Should they be allowed to? I guess, but then why do we restrict anything? Why can't people just walk around naked? You could make the argument that boobs shouldn't be a sexual thing, but they are, so it's sort of just railing against the prevailing culture at that point, which isn't terribly effective.
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#35 May 04 2010 at 9:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I don't fully understand why women would want to bare their bewbs. Despite our saturated culture, sexuality is still an intimate thing, and so I'd think most people wouldn't go for it. The responses in this thread reflect this.

Should they be allowed to? I guess, but then why do we restrict anything? Why can't people just walk around naked? You could make the argument that boobs shouldn't be a sexual thing, but they are, so it's sort of just railing against the prevailing culture at that point, which isn't terribly effective.


Then require that men wear shirts also. Simple.

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#36 May 04 2010 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Then require that men wear shirts also. Simple.
So you're claiming that men's chests are sexual in the same way that women's are? I don't see that.

Edited, May 4th 2010 10:37am by Xsarus
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#37 May 04 2010 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
You're not thinking like a girl then.

A well toned, hunky man's chest is definitely sexual. Rowr.
#38 May 04 2010 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
Samira wrote:
Then require that men wear shirts also. Simple.
So you're claiming that men's chests are sexual in the same way that women's are? I don't see that.


Women's breasts are not inherently sexual (hence, "dirty", hence "obscene") either. That's kinda the point.

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#39 May 04 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
Women's breasts are not inherently sexual (hence, "dirty", hence "obscene") either.

Hrm? They're used (in part) to attract mates, they have nerve endings that make stimulation sexually pleasurable (YMMV) and they're a part of the whole reproduction thing. I don't see how they're not sexual.

I agree that they're not dirty or obscene though.
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#40 May 04 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Secondary sex traits, fine, fine. But their primary use is for nursing. The attraction part is cultural; as far as I'm aware bulls don't select cows based on their great big firm udders.

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#41 May 04 2010 at 10:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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as far as I'm aware bulls don't select cows based on their great big firm udders.

We're not bovines though. Humans are the only primates with permanently enlarged mammaries, even when not nursing. Heck, we're the only mammals aside from domesticated cows who were bred into the condition.

I don't think it's strange or even really questionable to think that humans evolved the "modern" breast as a means of attracting mates. Every other mammal on the planet nurses just fine without flashing large bazongas 365 days a year.
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#43 May 04 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I think its more of a principle thing. They want all the same privlages as men, all the same rights. But they still want all the protections they have, they still want to keep the distinction that they are women, so if they haul off and ***** slap a guy, and he turns around and punches her in the chops, he still gets in sh*t.


It's a double standard as equally embedded in western society as racism. Unfortunately, most men just don't give a sh*t (outside of idle complaints in a conversation of this nature), so it's a cultural norm that will never be seriously challenged.

Also, we evolved from apes, not monkeys. It's an important distinction. Regarding the question as to why apes don't have abnormally enlarged breasts and humans do, I'm gonna go with this theory:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201004/why-do-breasts-mesmerize wrote:
Theories range from the belief that breasts serve as signaling devices announcing fertility and fat deposits sufficient to withstand the rigors of pregnancy and breastfeeding to "genital echo theory": females developed pendulous breasts around the time hominids began walking upright in order to provoke the excitation males formerly felt when gazing at the fatty deposits on the buttocks.

Theorists supporting genital echo theory have noted that swellings like those of chimpanzees and bonobos would interfere with locomotion in a bi-pedal primate, so when our distant ancestors began walking upright, they reason that some of the female's fertility signaling moved from the rear office, as it were, to the front showroom. In a bit of historical ping-pong, the dictates of fashion have moved the swelling back and forth over the centuries with high heels, Victorian bustles, and other derrière enhancements.


If you give the above any credibility, the curvature of the human female's breast is merely supplemental to that of her ***, both of which, speaking strictly in a biological sense, are presumed to signal fertility and attract a mate. Sexual in nature? Absolutely. Taboo or obscene? Hardly.

Edited, May 4th 2010 12:37pm by BrownDuck
#44 May 04 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Women's breasts are not inherently sexual (hence, "dirty", hence "obscene") either. That's kinda the point.
I want to be quite clear that I wasn't saying breasts were dirty or obscene, nor was I making any connection between dirty obscene things and sexuality. My point was that in our culture breasts are very sexual. For the rest I think Joph said it well, so I'll just leave it at that.

If we're going to discourage people from fully displaying overtly sexual parts of their bodies, then it seems to me that at this point, breasts fall under that category.

Edited, May 4th 2010 12:32pm by Xsarus
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#45 May 04 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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BrownDuck wrote:
Also, we evolved from apes, not monkeys. It's an important distinction.

I haven't been reading the thread too closely but did anyone make the claim that we evolved from monkeys?

Edit: Oops, I skipped the post above yours. I was happier before I realized it, too.

Edited, May 4th 2010 12:38pm by Jophiel
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#46 May 04 2010 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
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BrownDuck wrote:
Also, we evolved from apes, not monkeys. It's an important distinction.

I haven't been reading the thread too closely but did anyone make the claim that we evolved from monkeys?

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Monkeys don't exist? They don't wear clothes and its pretty much a sure thing we evolved from them.


Edited, May 4th 2010 12:39pm by BrownDuck
#47 May 04 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not terribly concerned with primate lifestyles when considering culture as it exists in the present.
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#48 May 04 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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BrownDuck wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
BrownDuck wrote:
Also, we evolved from apes, not monkeys. It's an important distinction.
I haven't been reading the thread too closely but did anyone make the claim that we evolved from monkeys?
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Monkeys don't exist? They don't wear clothes and its pretty much a sure thing we evolved from them.

Evolution aside, monkeys (nor apes nor prosimians) don't have enlarged breasts when they're not nursing.
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#49 May 04 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
Sir Xsarus wrote:
I'm not terribly concerned with primate lifestyles when considering culture as it exists in the present.


It's more about physiological differences, really.
#50 May 04 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
Jophiel wrote:
Evolution aside, monkeys (nor apes nor prosimians) don't have enlarged breasts when they're not nursing.


Absolutely. The theory I posted (and find credible) is that permanent enlargement of the breast occurred around the time we became bi-pedal. All that junk in the trunk makes it harder to walk upright, so our bodies spread the love around, so to speak. It makes even more evolutionary sense when you consider that as a result of walking up right, humans have more direct frontal contact with potential mates that most of our ancestral species.


Edited, May 4th 2010 12:50pm by BrownDuck
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I've heard the same theory and it seems plausible enough though I don't really have an opinion on it.

RDM seemed to be laboring under the impression that monkeys have boobs.
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