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Brown,

My predictions often become fact.

You mean besides this one?

It's obviously pure speculation, but I think assuming that it *couldn't* be eco-terrorism (or whatever you want to call it) on the grounds that they wouldn't want to cause that much damage isn't necessarily valid. I doubt most people who might consider doing something like blowing up an oil rig would realize just how much oil might spill as a result. If you just thought you'd destroy a billion dollar oil rig and raise awareness of the dangers, you might just do it.

A whole lot of people don't understand the dynamics of a deep drill oil rig. Common perception is that they pump the oil out of the ground or off the bottom of the ocean. Break the rig and the pumping stops, right? But if the oil source is deep enough, and the pipe remains intact up to a relatively shallow depth, the pressure differential acts like a chimney and sucks the oil up to the surface. It's not unreasonable to assume that someone might just look at the quantity of oil stored in tanks on the rig itself at any given time and/or in the pipes and think that's an acceptable amount to spill in order to make the desired point.


I'm not saying there's any evidence that this is the case. Just pointing out that the argument being bandied about in opposition of the idea isn't as strong as it appears at first. If people always knew the exact results of their actions, a whole lot of things would not happen as they have historically.

I'd wait until we know more about what exactly happened. Right now, we're getting stories from those who survived, and not all of them match up perfectly. There's a whole lot of different things which could have happened, and I wouldn't rule out some form of sabotage just because it might be inconvenient if it were true.

Well, when one side is blindly guessing and making stuff up, there's only so much effort you're going to go through to say they're probably wrong.


What? Yeah, sure. If you want to just say that people don't understand how an oil rig works and that's why it could be eco-terrorism... sure. I guess. Again, when you're just making stuff up, it's really easy to discount any intelligent response as "Yeah, but (in my imaginary world) these guys probably didn't know how an oil rig worked."


Good. There isn't. You embarrass yourself by even playing the "I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'..." game.

3) None of the above preclude people from making stupid-assed assertions.

4) I love picking nits over stupid-assed assertions.

We haven't even mentioned Varus is a ****** in at least 4 posts. Frickin' natural selection broke. Stuff like that happens all the time.

Paulsol linked a page on it like, 5 posts ago...

Edited, May 5th 2010 10:02am by LockeColeMA

Varrus is right, that source is absurd.

Even a stopped clock etc.

Kavek,

Did it hurt having to say that?


Next thing I want to know is why were swat teams sent there? Is this standard procedure for this sort of thing?

Edited, May 5th 2010 11:52am by knoxxsouthy

One of the sources I heard last weekend, who claims to have been on the rig itself (take that for what it's worth) said that the natural gas containment equipment failed, allowing gas to leak into non-secured areas (meaning not static and spark free). This caused a fire, which then spread into the main containment area, causing an explosion, and the rest was nature doing its thing. Of course, there's no way to know if this information is accurate or even just pure speculation. It's obviously a way this disaster could have happened. But there are other theories and stories floating around out there.

Hmmm... Interesting that you took it that way. I meant it to cover for the fact that the source is just some guy who called a radio show claiming to have been on the rig. There's no substantiation for the one story we have, thus it's no more or less likely to be true than any other random bit of speculation out there at this time.

But if you want to take that as "Oohh! But that's just what they want you to think... <insert conspiracy here>", then by all means, knock yourself out with that.

Coming from the Birther who thinks the Census is out to get 'im, I figured it was even odds either way.

Exactly. Like 9/11 conspiracies or moon landing conspiracies or conspiracies about Obama's associations with known terrorists. I'm glad you're on board.

Dude, I totally read on a blog once that Obama was giving all sorts of support for this Odinga guy. Like campaigning for him and giving him money and everything.

They even had a picture of him standing with the guy which proved everything!