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#1 May 03 2010 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
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US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
By: Sorcha Faal, TASS AGENCY RUSSIA


A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

It's being reported by the your former comrade-in-arms, the Russkies, so it must be true, eh Lefties?
/chortles

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#2 May 03 2010 at 6:32 AM Rating: Good
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Link, oh poster of improbable news?
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#3 May 03 2010 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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That's just a gimmick press release for Tom Clancy's new book.
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#4 May 03 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:

It's being reported by the your former comrade-in-arms, the Russkies, so it must be true, eh Lefties?
/chortles

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#5 May 03 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
Okay Totem: having flown helicopters and worked (are working?) for oil producers, I'm curious if you have the inside scoop on Bp (good safety record, poor record, they are all alike) or disasters of this type.
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Okay Totem: having flown helicopters and worked (are working?) for oil producers, I'm curious if you have the inside scoop on Bp (good safety record, poor record, they are all alike) or disasters of this type.
I worked for years trying to get oil companies to clean up their spills on our coast. BP, having more money than most was outwardly cooperative. However, like all the oil conveyors I did business with, you had to really stay on top of them to actually get them to do what they agreed to.

This spill could break the bank.
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#7 May 04 2010 at 6:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oil companies regardless how careful they are are subject to the same dangers everyone of us are exposed to on a daily basis. In other words, sometimes **** happens. Is BP any more or less prone to accidents? I'd have to say no, but there are certainly other oil companies who are far worse in terms of their safety record.

Chevron, the company I recently subcontracted to, had a "good" safety record, but strangely what few accidents happened always occured to subcontractors and non-Chevron employees. The same goes for oil spills. When oil spilled it never exceeded a barrel's worth, thus avoiding the messy business of mea culpa-ing themselves to both the shareholders and the local populace.

For what it's worth, there have been numerous times both when I worked in the GoM and in Angola where the engineers would mutter to each other about nearly missed disasters where loss of life, equipment, and oil production was barely avoided. Just from a helicopter perspective, each time you cross the helideck where you are committed to the landing is an engine's cough away from a massive explosion and all that ensues. Having a machine with whirling blades loaded with fuel directly next to a 500* centigrade engine is the very definition of an accident looking for a place to happen.

I can say this: BP did not let this happen because they didn't care or didn't take measures to keep it from happening in the first place. The very nature of the business means that these events can and will happen on occasion. Fortunately, they are relatively rare. The last one of this magnitude was back in 1986 or 1989-ish I think.
/shrugs
It's the price of driving cars and stuff. The dangers in being a roustabout have routinely made it #1 for dangerous jobs year after year. The rig exploding and the resulting oil spill is just an extension of that normal everyday danger.

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#8 May 04 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
North Korea would not have the technology to do such a thing. Remember, Kim Jung-Il land is still stuck in the 1960s. I patently refuse to believe they'd be able to get a submarine all the way down past South America to Cuba without triggering at least some detection system.

Edited, May 4th 2010 9:43am by catwho
#9 May 04 2010 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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North Korea would not have the technology to do such a thing. Remember, Kim Jung-Il land is still stuck in the 1960s. I patently refuse to believe they'd be able to get a submarine all the way down past South America to Cuba without triggering at least some detection system.

Edited, May 4th 2010 9:43am by catwho


Well to be fair, the article does say it was a mini sub launched from a freighter at the last minute, that then torpedoed the platform? Wouldn't it just be simpler to hide a torpedo under the freighter in a side fire tube and do it that way? the other way you have to launch the mini sub in mid ocean, load the crew whilst smiling and waving for the spy satilites, drive the what, 10 knot mini sub to fireing range of the oil platform, sink it, then drive back and let them winch you back aboard, all within 10 minutes flight by F-18 from Mirimar. But technically you could do that with a 1960's era freighter and a WW-II vintage mini sub. Sort of. Might just be easier to load a dhingy up with explosives and drive it into the base of the platform though. But not nearly as james bond evil vilan as using a mini sub.
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#10 May 04 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Kim Jong-Il being the closest we have to a James Bond supervillian these days, i think that's the most plausible of these scenarios.
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#11 May 04 2010 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
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I think we're all missing the bigger picture here.

What about the... TERRORISTS!?!?



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#12 May 04 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
Iammadam,

More likely radical left oil hating liberals.

#13 May 04 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Iammadam,

More likely radical left oil hating liberals.


Those environmentalist kind, right?
#14 May 04 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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You don't think they would sabotage a rig if by doing so they would set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs?

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Locked,

You don't think they would sabotage a rig if by doing so they would set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs?


If they're environmentalists?

Uh... no.
#16 May 04 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Locked,

You don't think they would sabotage a rig if by doing so they would set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs?


If they're environmentalists?

Uh... no.


Quick, Jim! Let's destroy the gulf before those oil companies do!
#17 May 04 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
Brownduck,

More like; quick Jim let's sabotage this oil rig because it'll set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs for the evil empire.




#18 May 04 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Brownduck,

More like; quick Jim let's sabotage this oil rig because it'll set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs for the evil empire.


Shut up, stupid.
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More like; quick Jim let's sabotage this oil rig because it'll set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs for the evil empire.

The Gulf will recover just in time to start drilling again. Brilliant!
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#20 May 04 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe it was Starkist, in an attempt to ruin the shrimpin' bidness and put tuna on top of the seafood industry.
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#21 May 04 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:
Locked,

You don't think they would sabotage a rig if by doing so they would set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs?


If they're environmentalists?

Uh... no.

Yeah, eco-terrorism is so totally beyond Earth First.
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Yeah, eco-terrorism is so totally beyond Earth First.

There's a difference between spiking trees and torching a couple hundred thousand acres of old growth forest to teach those loggers a lesson.
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#23 May 04 2010 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency MoebiusLord wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Locked,

You don't think they would sabotage a rig if by doing so they would set drilling in the gulf back 20yrs?


If they're environmentalists?

Uh... no.

Yeah, eco-terrorism is so totally beyond Earth First.


Not saying that torching mansions or demolishing SUVs is beyond some of the radical groups like ELF, but if you honestly think flooding the Gulf with oil is the goal of even the nuttiest environmentalists, you're on your way to being as crazy as Varus.
#24 May 04 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Not saying that torching mansions or demolishing SUVs is beyond some of the radical groups like ELF


How about bombing the pentagon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

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but if you honestly think flooding the Gulf with oil is the goal of even the nuttiest environmentalists, you're on your way to being as crazy as Varus.


The Gulf will recover, quickly. Destroying one well which causes a mini-disaster that might have the effect of completely shutting down any prospect of expanding oil production in the gulf might seem like a good reward for someone who's completely against any oil production in the first place.



Edited, May 4th 2010 2:54pm by knoxxsouthy
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How about bombing the pentagon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Yeah. That showed those fat cat oil barons... wait a sec... what??
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#26 May 04 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
Jophed,

Just proving that far left radicals are just as prone to violence as any other radical group.

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