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#1 Apr 28 2010 at 5:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Guess all that time playing with the Scout master's wii pays off.

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The Boy Scouts of America have introduced the new Video Games "belt loop" and "academic pin." Only Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts and Webelos Scouts can earn the new awards by displaying an understanding and ability with computer and video games, according to bit-tech.com. The younger Bobcats aren't eligible.

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#2 Apr 28 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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This story's being slightly skewed by the media to make it seem more sensational. I saw a few headlines today (some later redacted) describing this as a "Boy Scout merit badge" when it's actually only a belt loop for Cub Scouts, which ends in 5th grade. Cub Scouts are basically all about having fun (with plenty of parental supervision, of course), so a video game merit badge that's basically focused on encouraging kids to play games responsibly makes sense. You can also earn Cub Scout belt loops for playing marbles, skateboarding, or collecting Pokemon cards.

If this were a Boy Scout merit badge, it would have been pretty ridiculous, though.
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Samira just wanted to make a joke about playing with someone's Wii.
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#4 Apr 28 2010 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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Ha, the thought of a killimanjaro merit badge tickles me.
#5 Apr 28 2010 at 7:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Samira just wanted to make a joke about playing with someone's Wii.


It's true. /hangs head

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#6 Apr 28 2010 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Samira just wanted to make a joke about playing with someone's Wii.


It's true. /hangs head


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#7 Apr 28 2010 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, it teaches responsibility and scheduling. Why not? Cub scout activities for those belt loops are supposed to be fun and educational. Also, it should be legal to mutilate then kill the sick bastards that forever tainted the public perception of the scouting program. A huge evil done there, that can never be undone I fear.
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#8 Apr 28 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly I've always thought it funny to give badges and perks and whatever gewgaws there are, for indoor activities. Scouting was originally all about getting boys, and later girls, out of the house into the healthy fresh air. Rewards for basket weaving and making pot holders or whatever just always struck me as a little odd.

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#9 Apr 28 2010 at 9:48 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly I've always thought it funny to give badges and perks and whatever gewgaws there are, for indoor activities. Scouting was originally all about getting boys


That's true.
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Eh, it teaches responsibility and scheduling. Why not? Cub scout activities for those belt loops are supposed to be fun and educational. Also, it should be legal to mutilate then kill the sick bastards that forever tainted the public perception of the scouting program. A huge evil done there, that can never be undone I fear.


This. Scouts is a great program, and as much as I'm not an outdoor person it's done plenty to shape what I am today.
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Samira wrote:
Honestly I've always thought it funny to give badges and perks and whatever gewgaws there are, for indoor activities. Scouting was originally all about getting boys, and later girls, out of the house into the healthy fresh air. Rewards for basket weaving and making pot holders or whatever just always struck me as a little odd.



My basket turned out more like a hat than an actual basket. Never really did get the hang of that. There has always been a certain amount of indoor activity inherent to the scouting program. Lord Baden Powell, who set it up origionally in England after the Boar war, was looking to give potential military recruits necessary skills that he saw as lacking in his troops. Primarily focused on outdoor activities, compas work, basic camp hygene, foraging and huntiing, archery and rifle familiarity, swimming, lifesaving, etc. The other aspects, such as community relations and knowledge of the government and how it works that you find in the "citizenship in the World / nation / community" were aimed at generating qualtities that Baden powell thought were requisite in an officer. The other indoor ones, wood carving, basket weaving, etc, many of them were added later, but a few of them were there from the beginning having been identified as potentially useful activities when camping in the rough. Don't have a plate to eat off? weave one. Don't have a roof, make one out of leaves like a potholder.

As the program expanded and the U.S. version came into existance, they found that they needed to have additional activities for the various summer camps, especially for when normal outdoor activities got rained out. So they added more. They also added quite a few science related ones.

I ended up with 72 out of the 120 at the time merit badges at the end, and an Eagle Scout badge. Never tell that to a military recruiter though, or even worse have someone you know tell them for you. They will never stop calling you after that. Ever.
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#12 Apr 29 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Honestly I've always thought it funny to give badges and perks and whatever gewgaws there are, for indoor activities.

Gewgaw is an awesome word. I agree, and the outdoor badges are generally the main reasons that kids want to join Scouts and are encouraged by their parents to do so. Kao's right, though - you need other things to keep kids busy at the weekly indoor meetings (often held at churches or community centers) or when the weather's bad at Scout camp.

Our Scoutmaster for the majority of my time in Boy Scouts was awesome. He organized a ton of weekend hiking and rock-climbing trips for us, in addition to a week-long trip every summer where we'd canoe 100 miles down a river in Maine. For our Wilderness Survival merit badge, he had us build our own igloos in the middle of the winter and sleep in them overnight. When he left, he was replaced by a pudgy, unadventurous dude whose main goal was to fast-track his son to Eagle. Our troop got significantly less fun after that.

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I ended up with 72 out of the 120 at the time merit badges at the end, and an Eagle Scout badge. Never tell that to a military recruiter though, or even worse have someone you know tell them for you. They will never stop calling you after that. Ever.

Holy crap. 72?? I think the all-time record for anyone in my Troop was around 50. I squeezed by with just 24 for my Eagle; those tedious Citizenship badges had sapped away most of my energy and motivation by the time I was finishing up. Kudos to you, man.
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Thirteen posts and no quips about getting merit badges for buttsex with the Scoutmaster or a patch for sucking off the troop leader?

Man, don't you guys read newspapers?

Edit: Samira is excused.

Edited, Apr 29th 2010 3:12pm by Jophiel
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#14 Apr 29 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I want a merit badge for pwnin' n00bs.

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Thirteen posts and no quips about getting merit badges for buttsex with the Scoutmaster or a patch for sucking off the troop leader?

How do you think we kept warm sleeping in those igloos?
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We never had very many scouts with a high number of badges either. One of the things that actually annoyed me a bit was that over time, the indoor and community badges vastly outnumbered the outdoor ones, such that it was very very difficult to get Eagle unless you lived in a reasonably sized town with a decent population density. When you live on the top of a freaking mountain, with literally (yes. I counted them) 7 paved roads over an area about 2500 square miles in size, you hit the first aid, swimming, riffling, knot tying, knife handling, survival, hunting, and structure building ones pretty quick, and then see a mass of badges that require you to do things like "organize a picnic on your block", or "visit 3 local churches", or "get 20 people in the community to sign a petition", or any of a zillion badges that require walking around a neighborhood, which is hard to do with the next closest "neighbor" lives a half mile down a road.

I just remember looking through the handbook at the requirements for various merit badges and going "can't do that", "can't do that", "can't do that".... Our troop had very few merit badges, but we generally kicked the crap out of every other troop when they held those Jamboree thingies. All the competitions were things we did pretty much exclusively. You needed knots tied? One handed? Behind my back? No problem. Build a tower out of tree branches? Piece of cake. Navigate using a map and compass? Where's my blindfold? We had tons of redwood forest to camp in, and took great advantage of that, doing weekend camping trips at least once a month. No cabins for us. Our "campground" was a reasonably flat area where we could pitch tents and dig fire pits.

It was all a ton of fun, but no... not many merit badges. I don't recall a single scout making Eagle during the time I was in that troop.

Edited, Apr 29th 2010 7:43pm by gbaji
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#17 Apr 29 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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My basket turned out more like a hat than an actual basket. Never really did get the hang of that. There has always been a certain amount of indoor activity inherent to the scouting program. Lord Baden Powell, who set it up origionally in England after the Boar war, was looking to give potential military recruits necessary skills that he saw as lacking in his troops. Primarily focused on outdoor activities, compas work, basic camp hygene, foraging and huntiing, archery and rifle familiarity, swimming, lifesaving, etc. The other aspects, such as community relations and knowledge of the government and how it works that you find in the "citizenship in the World / nation / community" were aimed at generating qualtities that Baden powell thought were requisite in an officer. The other indoor ones, wood carving, basket weaving, etc, many of them were added later, but a few of them were there from the beginning having been identified as potentially useful activities when camping in the rough. Don't have a plate to eat off? weave one. Don't have a roof, make one out of leaves like a potholder.

As the program expanded and the U.S. version came into existance, they found that they needed to have additional activities for the various summer camps, especially for when normal outdoor activities got rained out. So they added more. They also added quite a few science related ones.

I ended up with 72 out of the 120 at the time merit badges at the end, and an Eagle Scout badge. Never tell that to a military recruiter though, or even worse have someone you know tell them for you. They will never stop calling you after that. Ever.


Did they give out the gold cards when you got your eagle?
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My basket turned out more like a hat than an actual basket. Never really did get the hang of that. There has always been a certain amount of indoor activity inherent to the scouting program. Lord Baden Powell, who set it up origionally in England after the Boar war, was looking to give potential military recruits necessary skills that he saw as lacking in his troops. Primarily focused on outdoor activities, compas work, basic camp hygene, foraging and huntiing, archery and rifle familiarity, swimming, lifesaving, etc. The other aspects, such as community relations and knowledge of the government and how it works that you find in the "citizenship in the World / nation / community" were aimed at generating qualtities that Baden powell thought were requisite in an officer. The other indoor ones, wood carving, basket weaving, etc, many of them were added later, but a few of them were there from the beginning having been identified as potentially useful activities when camping in the rough. Don't have a plate to eat off? weave one. Don't have a roof, make one out of leaves like a potholder.

As the program expanded and the U.S. version came into existance, they found that they needed to have additional activities for the various summer camps, especially for when normal outdoor activities got rained out. So they added more. They also added quite a few science related ones.

I ended up with 72 out of the 120 at the time merit badges at the end, and an Eagle Scout badge. Never tell that to a military recruiter though, or even worse have someone you know tell them for you. They will never stop calling you after that. Ever.


Did they give out the gold cards when you got your eagle?


yup, mine was signed by Clinton. I think it's still in my wallet somewhere actually.
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My basket turned out more like a hat than an actual basket. Never really did get the hang of that. There has always been a certain amount of indoor activity inherent to the scouting program. Lord Baden Powell, who set it up origionally in England after the Boar war, was looking to give potential military recruits necessary skills that he saw as lacking in his troops. Primarily focused on outdoor activities, compas work, basic camp hygene, foraging and huntiing, archery and rifle familiarity, swimming, lifesaving, etc. The other aspects, such as community relations and knowledge of the government and how it works that you find in the "citizenship in the World / nation / community" were aimed at generating qualtities that Baden powell thought were requisite in an officer. The other indoor ones, wood carving, basket weaving, etc, many of them were added later, but a few of them were there from the beginning having been identified as potentially useful activities when camping in the rough. Don't have a plate to eat off? weave one. Don't have a roof, make one out of leaves like a potholder.

As the program expanded and the U.S. version came into existance, they found that they needed to have additional activities for the various summer camps, especially for when normal outdoor activities got rained out. So they added more. They also added quite a few science related ones.

I ended up with 72 out of the 120 at the time merit badges at the end, and an Eagle Scout badge. Never tell that to a military recruiter though, or even worse have someone you know tell them for you. They will never stop calling you after that. Ever.


Did they give out the gold cards when you got your eagle?


yup, mine was signed by Clinton. I think it's still in my wallet somewhere actually.


Keep it there. It proves helpful in a variety of situations.
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#20 Apr 30 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I forget how young some of you are. I think Carter was in office when I was in scouts, and Reagan had just been elected the last year I was in.

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#21 Apr 30 2010 at 4:51 PM Rating: Good
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It seems dumb, but kids club often set easy enjoyable goals for the kids to reach. Specially at the younger ages.

Still, I don't recall there ever being a reward for playing board games. Course, on the other hand the wii can be called physical activity and that rates. :)
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