Obama bowing....againFollow

Or, even better, dig up a year old thread...

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 3:41pm by Killienmage

You act as though he is kneeling before them, unzipping their pants and sucking their ****.

If someone you met bowed to you, would you feel they were being somehow "subservient" to you?

Personally I'd be surprised why they weren't kneeling, unzipping my pants, and sucking away happily.

what joph said

If they were bowing that way, yes. I interact with people from East Asia all the time. I've bowed and been bowed to dozens of times. I've witnessed people bowing to each other many times more than that. I have *never* seen anyone of any nationality make a greeting bow the way Obama does. And no one I work with or know has either. It's simply not done that way. Not between East/West greeters. Not between East/East greeters. Not between anyone. Not when just greeting someone.


Look. I'm not going to go off on some flight of fancy or drum up some conspiracy as to why he's doing it. Leave that to others. But I will say that what he is doing is wrong and it's just strange as hell that he keeps doing it. I could get someone making a clumsy bow once maybe. It takes a few times to get it right, but if you're paying attention to what others are doing, it's not that hard. What boggles my mind is that he's still doing it wrong after all this time. It's just not that hard. In fact, it takes effort to do it as completely wrong as he's doing. So yeah. It's kinda odd to see this, and that's why people keep bringing it up.

Yeah, that's what you said before when he visited Japan. Then you said that everyone there was scandalized. Then I checked all the major newspapers from the region and not a one said peep about it except for one saying "Check out these Americans throwing a tizzy". Then you said started crying about Neville Chamberlain and stuff.

Good times.

People don't like to point out that the retarded kid just shit his pants Joph. They politely ignore it. That's what you saw.


Yes or no? Is Obama bowing properly?

Isn't that the only thing that matters here?

Right, right...

"Everyone is soooooooo upset but no one will say a single word about it! That's how you know they're soooooo upset!"

Are... are you serious?

Of course it's not the only thing that matters. I suppose it is if you're some partisan idiot who only wants to score "points". The only thing that matters is what effect it has. Which is where I note that there's none and you say "Everyone is soooooo secret-mad!!! But they can never EVER say it!!!!"

In Japanese culture, you don't point out when someone has done something embarrassing or inappropriate.





Yes. The head of state, who represents us all can't figure out how to properly greet people. Why do you think that this *isn't* important.

If Bush had belched at a state dinner, you'd think it was important and showed just how uncultured he was and make the argument that he wasn't representing the people of the US well. This is exactly the same. It's inappropriate behavior. He just apparently doesn't realizes it, and his inner circle seem unwilling to tell him.

The emperor has no clothes Joph. Someone should point it out. Don't you agree?



It's the only thing that matters "here". As in "in this thread". We are talking about Obama bowing and that he's doing it wrong. You seem to want to argue about everything *except* that fact.

Can't you just say "Yeah. He's doing it wrong and someone should tell him this so he learns to do it right"? I mean, you want to insist that I'm a partisan when I refuse to join in bashing Palin or Bush or whomever, but aren't you doing the exact same thing here?

I'm not insisting that you "bash Obama" though. I'm just asking that you even acknowledge that his bows are not correct bows. That's it. Nothing more. No crazed reading into the meaning. No insistence that this means he's some secrete manchurian candidate or something. Just acknowledge that the bows he's giving are inappropriate ones. Can you do this?

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 2:42pm by gbaji

No, that's not what this thread was about. It was about the fact that he bowed at all. Varus doesn't give two ***** whether or not he's doing it correctly. Just the fact that he's doing it has him frothing at the mouth.

I'd still like to see what "uproar" you were talking about, though. That'd be interesting.

Right. Never. No one. In fact, you should always just assume that everyone is really mad because you just said they were and you know how super mad they are by them not saying that they're super mad.

Well, hell. How do you debate logic like that? I suppose it beats actually having anything to back yourself up with. Just insist that it's sooooooo true that no one can EVER admit how true it is!


Bush made piles of gaffes at international events. Show me where I ever started a thread about them or brought them up as anything but a joking rejoinder. Rather than tell me what I would have done, actually show me or else stop trying to rely on your imagination as evidence of anything.


I honestly have no idea if he's doing it wrong. However, I gave you the benefit of the doubt on it in the last thread so sure. If he did it wrong, he should be corrected. Was that supposed to hurt my soul to say or something?