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#1 Apr 09 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Tennessee family adopts Russian boy, 7, then sends him back

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/tennessee-family-adopts-russian-boy-7-then-sends-him-back/article1529229/

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A top Russian official demanded that all child adoptions by U.S. families be frozen Friday after a woman from Tennessee shipped her 7-year-old adopted Russian grandson on a one-way flight back to Moscow all alone.

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The boy, Artyom Savelyev, arrived unaccompanied in Moscow on a United Airlines flight on Thursday from Washington. Social workers sent him to a Moscow hospital on Friday for a health checkup and criticized his adoptive mother for abandoning him.

The Kremlin children's rights office said the boy was carrying a letter from his adoptive mother saying she was returning him due to severe psychological problems.

“This child is mentally unstable. He is violent and has severe psychopathic issues,” the letter said. “I was lied to and misled by the Russian Orphanage workers and director regarding his mental stability and other issues. ...

“After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the safety of my family, friends, and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child.”

The boy was adopted last September from the town of Partizansk in Russia's Far East.

Nancy Hansen, the grandmother, told The Associated Press that she and the boy flew to Washington and she put the child on the plane with the note from her daughter. She vehemently rejected assertions of child abandonment by Russian authorities, saying he was watched over by a United Airlines stewardess and the family paid a man $200 to pick the boy up at the Moscow airport and take him to the Russian Education and Science Ministry.

Speaking from the home in Shelbyville that she shares with her daughter, Nancy Hansen said a social worker checked on the boy in January and reported to Russian authorities that there were no problems. But after that, the grandmother said incidents of hitting, kicking, spitting began to escalate, along with threats.

“He drew a picture of our house burning down and he'll tell anybody that he's going to burn our house down with us in it,” she told The Associated Press in a phone interview. “It got to be where you feared for your safety. It was terrible.”

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tldr; version: They adopt a child from Russia, find out the child has some behavioral issues and send him alone on a one-way plane to Russia.

There should've been a better way to handle this.
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#2 Apr 09 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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The boy, Artyom Savelyev, arrived unaccompanied in Moscow on a United Airlines flight on Thursday from Washington. Social workers sent him to a Moscow hospital on Friday for a health checkup and criticized his adoptive mother for abandoning him.

MOAR LIEK SOCIALIST WORKERS, AMIRITE???
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#3 Apr 09 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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The boy, Artyom Savelyev, arrived unaccompanied in Moscow on a United Airlines flight on Thursday from Washington. Social workers sent him to a Moscow hospital on Friday for a health checkup and criticized his adoptive mother for abandoning him.

MOAR LIEK SOCIALIST WORKERS, AMIRITE???


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#4 Apr 09 2010 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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The boy, Artyom Savelyev, arrived unaccompanied in Moscow on a United Airlines flight on Thursday from Washington. Social workers sent him to a Moscow hospital on Friday for a health checkup and criticized his adoptive mother for abandoning him.

MOAR LIEK SOCIALIST WORKERS, AMIRITE???


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#5 Apr 09 2010 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
Crazy Russians.
#6 Apr 09 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
He didn't even get to go to Mule Day... Smiley: frown







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#7 Apr 09 2010 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
I really don't know what you can to that mom, but I wouldn't be opposed to jailtime. That is no different than sending your own child on a plane by themselves. I hate people sometimes.

Also, why go over seas when there are plenty of children to adopt here. My wife and I have adopted 3 children and would adopt more if we could afford it.

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She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated. Children as young as five or six can travel unaccompanied on direct flights, and there was someone to meet him when he landed.

There are apparently a lot more kids in Russian orphanages. Three quarters of a million, according to CNN. What they don't say is how many US-Russian adoptions fail proportionately.

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Jophiel wrote:
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The boy, Artyom Savelyev, arrived unaccompanied in Moscow on a United Airlines flight on Thursday from Washington. Social workers sent him to a Moscow hospital on Friday for a health checkup and criticized his adoptive mother for abandoning him.

MOAR LIEK SOCIALIST WORKERS, AMIRITE???


The foster mother is probably a Republican.
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#10 Apr 09 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated. Children as young as five or six can travel unaccompanied on direct flights, and there was someone to meet him when he landed.


Legality aside, I'd still say that what she did was wrong.

Edited, Apr 9th 2010 1:38pm by Iamadam
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Also, why go over seas when there are plenty of children to adopt here.

Cheaper white kids.
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#12 Apr 09 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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xxmgobluexx wrote:
Also, why go over seas when there are plenty of children to adopt here.

Cheaper white kids.


Faster adoption processing. What people don't understand is the burden they're picking up:

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Observers and adoptive parents have accused Russian orphanages of neglect and abuse. The reality is, these orphanages are underfunded, understaffed and over populated with children. Roughly 230,000 children are residents of the state orphanage system with over 650,000 in some form of state care. Itar-Tass has reported that some 90 percent of children in orphanages are not true orphans as they do have living parents. Due to poor conditions, inadequate nutrition and insufficient emotional care, many of these children are underdeveloped mentally and physically. The older the child and the longer he/she is in the system, the greater the emotional and, often, physical problems become. Disease passed on by the birth mother is frequent. In one orphanage in central Russia, all but one out of a group of 30 children had syphilis.


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Samira wrote:
She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated. Children as young as five or six can travel unaccompanied on direct flights, and there was someone to meet him when he landed.


Legality aside, I'd still say that what she did was wrong.


She could have at least waited until after the fire.
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Iamadam the Prohpet wrote:
Samira wrote:
She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated. Children as young as five or six can travel unaccompanied on direct flights, and there was someone to meet him when he landed.


Legality aside, I'd still say that what she did was wrong.


She could have at least waited until after the fire.


She couldn't call the adoption agency? Did she try to get some sort of help for the child? I'm sure there were other avenues that she should've explored.
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Iamadam the Prohpet wrote:
BrownDuck wrote:
Iamadam the Prohpet wrote:
Samira wrote:
She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated. Children as young as five or six can travel unaccompanied on direct flights, and there was someone to meet him when he landed.


Legality aside, I'd still say that what she did was wrong.


She could have at least waited until after the fire.


She couldn't call the adoption agency? Did she try to get some sort of help for the child? I'm sure there were other avenues that she should've explored.


She could have sold the kid to the local Russian Mafia.
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#16 Apr 09 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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What adoption agency?

This is the problem with (many) international adoptions - there is no official agency, just brokers who only arrange the deal.

I'm not saying she did the best possible thing. I don't know what her options were.

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#17 Apr 09 2010 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
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She did nothing illegal, unless there's an international agreement that was violated.


She abandoned her child. I am not sure if that is illegal, but it sure as hell should be.
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#19 Apr 09 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
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xxmgobluexx wrote:
Also, why go over seas when there are plenty of children to adopt here.

Cheaper white kids.


2 of my children were wards of the state and as such all cost were taken care of. It was also a next of kin adoption so that also helps in the process.

The other adoption was private and as such we had to pay for, but he was still pretty expensive for being non-white.
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The boy was adopted last September from the town of Partizansk in Russia's Far East.

Shoulda sent him to Palin's house. Then he could have just swam home across the Bering Strait.
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#21 Apr 09 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know what her options were.


Me neither, but I'm sure there were better ones than the "parenting is hard, so I'm going to give up" option.
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What adoption agency?


The one they used to adopt the kid which is based in the U.S. I'm sure they have at least a phone number they could have called.


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The Russian education ministry immediately suspended the license of the group involved in the adoption — the World Association for Children and Parents, a Renton, Washington-based agency — for the duration of an investigation. In Tennessee, authorities were investigating the adoptive mother, Torry Hansen
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Adoption within the US is an infuriatingly complicated, drawn-out process. There's MASSIVE amounts of paperwork, interviews, inspections, etc. to go through. That's why many, MANY people who adopt do so from overseas. They don't have to wait two-three years just to be cleared to adopt.

Plus, things like felony convictions (even when they are quite old) can hold up your adoption indefinitely.
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#24 Apr 09 2010 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
Shaow,

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The foster mother is probably a Republican.


How do you know the lady isn't a democrat living so close to memphrica and all?

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The boy was adopted last September from the town of Partizansk in Russia's Far East.

Shoulda sent him to Palin's house. Then he could have just swam home across the Bering Strait.


Well, yeah, now that it's nice and warm.












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#26 Apr 09 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Shaow,

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The foster mother is probably a Republican.


How do you know the lady isn't a democrat living so close to memphrica and all?



Sometimes I wonder if you even live in Tennessee....

Memphis might be in Shelby County, but Shelbyville, TN is in Bedford County. Which is in Middle Tennessee. South and a little EAST from Davidson County. Which is where Nashville is. You know, our capital?
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