ThiefX wrote:
Ah yes liberal logic.......
Did it ever cross your mind that the evil owner of the company (I'm sure he's evil because libs tell us they are) pays taxes on those trucks and taxes on the gas that goes into the truck and taxes on each employee driving those trucks and taxes on upkeep of those trucks and taxes on the goods in the back of the truck...........
I'm sure it did.
Nations have been adding and subtracting to their tax systems until they are a snarled mess of taxes, deductions and rebates. This is why the rich use accountants. Theoretically company tax is 30% in Aus. In practise, it is on record that our biggest companies pay 6-9% tax per year. Theoretically our top personal tax rate is something like 45%. In practise all the wealthy feed their incomes through family trusts or private companies, and pay no more than 20-30% tax tops.
Now, I'm not saying wealthy people and wealthy businesses are automatically evil. In fact, I'm very fond of money myself. I think everyone has the right to legally minimise the tax they pay, with or without accountant help, with the emphasis on
legally. What I am saying is that life isn't black or white. Most small businesses struggle but it's the nature of starting up, and getting trapped in a niche. Capitalism is designed to have winners and losers, and keep cost down by setting parties fighting to the financial death against each other, so everything is always being pared down to the bone as much as possible, unless you are in the upper eschelon of the winners circle.
Basically it's a myth that business is taxed to death. Capitalism makes business and workers suffer when they are pitted against each other. Consumers are supposed to be the beneficiaries of that suffering. It's just a problem that the consumers are also the workers and the business owners/shareholders.
Ditto it's a myth that the rich are taxed to death. It feels horrible when you get a nice fat paycheck/dividend and then you realise that nice big number is actually 40% smaller because you have to pay tax. I really know that feeling. Half that lovely figure just dissappeared! But the alternative to losing that 40% is living in a country where 80% of the places you walk have raw sewerage running in the gutters and you walk beside mounds of stinking, rotting garbage, waving flies out of the way of your face. That really is the alternative.
(Take your pick of municipality dysfunctions. They all run in a circles of catch-22s, until a monumental institution intervenes with a lot of money to build infrastructure that supports each other. And all the nations where there IS no government and tax system large enough to put in the basics of monumental infrastructure that a modern western nation needs to run on... they all demonstrate that individual private businesses can't or won't do the job themselves. Individuals in those nations can get rich and live in enclaves of decency, but 80-90% of the country will be left to rot, with almost no opportunities to better their situation. The exceptions are nations where warlord families own massively profitable resources like crude oil. These families turn around and personally pay for the infrastucture of everyone else in the nation. Nationally most people in these small minority of countries live fairly well off, but they live in oligarchies that amount to dictatorships. The entire wealth of the nation is privately owned by individuals of a few extended families.)